German Columbine

[Jac de Molay]

Ignorance truly is bliss after all.

[Jon Miller]

hey

you have something in your eye

Jon Miller

[MrBaggins]

No.. the fact that you didn't let a terrorist slip through your 'system' is bliss.

[Imran Siddiqui]

how many non-islamic islamic terrorists were there?

Hmmm, Timothy McVeigh
Baider Meinhoff Gang
Irish Republican Army
FARC (in Colombia)
etc.

Stereotyping is very nice and all, but usually wrong .

[MrBaggins]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

how many non-islamic islamic terrorists were there?

Hmmm, Timothy McVeigh
Baider Meinhoff Gang
Irish Republican Army
FARC (in Colombia)
etc.

Stereotyping is very nice and all, but usually wrong .

Well none of those are islamic terrorists... so they don't apply.

[DinoDoc]

Re: Re: Thanks, I've been looking for an opportunity to use this smiley.

Originally posted by MrBaggins
how many non-islamic islamic terrorists were there?

Fatah and thier secular subsidiaries.

[MrBaggins]

Re: Re: Re: Thanks, I've been looking for an opportunity to use this smiley.

Originally posted by DinoDoc


Fatah and thier secular subsidiaries.

thanks... so just to be on the safe side profile all muslims and arabs.

[OzzyKP]

Well look at Israel, you prize some of their efforts to stop terrorism, which can be considered draconian by many, but they haven't done any good. People still blow themselves up on the streets of Israel.

With crime and violent behavior we cannot assume that treating the symptoms is enough. It never has been and never will be. We have to look at why people commit violent crimes. Only by addressing that can we stop violence. I'll bring this thread back to its original topic (I hope) to make this point.

School shootings are a hyped up occurance in not only this country, but apparently in Europe too. Profiling people who wear black, or imposing zero-tolerance doesn't stop these crimes. People say that police need to be stationed in every high school to prevent shootings. They totally blind themselves to the fact that in Columbine there WAS a cop in the building. There is much evidence out there to say that the only thing that cop did was kill an innocent student, NOT the shooters.

We have to address the root cause of these acts of violence. It is clear in my mind that the reason students act out like this is a sense of powerlessness. They have no control over their lives or their destiny. They feel as if they are imprisoned for committing no crime. Just close your eyes and picture yourself in a situation where no one listens to you. No matter what you say or do people look down on you and patronize you. You have no freedom, others are always controling you. You can't escape, you can't try to change things, and no one will even listen to you complain about it. It is like being in a room with no doors or windows, feeling trapped and alone.

When in a situation like that it is just human nature to explode. It is like a wild animal backed into a corner, it feels trapped with no alternatives so it becomes violent. So to do young people turn violent when they feel trapped by society. All these post-columbine measures only make the root cause for violence grow. Increasing the alienation, suffocation, and powerlessness that students feel. This is making things worse, not better.

Granting young people freedom is the only solution to stop these terrible mass shootings.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Well none of those are islamic terrorists... so they don't apply.

Now I know you are a stupid troll... thank you .

On the safe side we should profile all white people because of Tim McVeigh, the Unabomber, David Koresh, the KKK, and the Nazis .

[MrBaggins]

Well done Imran.

I was just taking a Time back page idea and seeing how far it would run...

[connorkimbro]

Christ on a pogo stick, people! Isn't it a little early to start scoring little political points with this, pro-gun or anti-gun, zero-tolerance or not zero-tolerance, ad naseum?

If it happened in the US, it wouldn't be. Whenever something like this happens in the US, the anti-gun people go nuts.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by MrBaggins
Well done Imran.

I was just taking a Time back page idea and seeing how far it would run...

And only 3 posts by me .

Well, I alluded to it in the first post .

[MrBaggins]

Imran> You didn't say Simon says first time around... too ambiguous...

[Faeelin]

I thought guns were banned in Germany?

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by connorkimbro

Christ on a pogo stick, people! Isn't it a little early to start scoring little political points with this, pro-gun or anti-gun, zero-tolerance or not zero-tolerance, ad naseum?

If it happened in the US, it wouldn't be. Whenever something like this happens in the US, the anti-gun people go nuts.

As domenstrated by this thread it isn't when it happens in the EU, either - 'cause the pro-gun/anti-gun people still go nuts.