Double Standard?

[nationalist]

Originally posted by devilmunchkin
that's what i think..but it's not my place to say something. and her father is such a kind man to the point where she treats him like a doormat. my bf tells me "that he's really angry," but i've seen it before..he'll just back down and she'll end up taking over the house with that kid. her father has 6 other kids to deal with and now she's adding another. *sigh* but it's not my place to sa a damn thing is it?

Her boyfriend will be in jail soon enough. I feel for the dad, but he has to put his foot down. Lose one child to protect the rest of them. Its obvious that his daughter is selfish and doesn't love her family anyway. I feel bad for her baby. Like I said earlier, give the baby to the girls dad, then abort the daughter and the daughter's scumbag boyfriend.

[devilmunchkin]

by the time the baby is born, the daughter will be a legal adult. can her dad force her to give up her child?

[nationalist]

Originally posted by devilmunchkin
by the time the baby is born, the daughter will be a legal adult. can her dad force her to give up her child?

No

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by devilmunchkin
by the time the baby is born, the daughter will be a legal adult. can her dad force her to give up her child?

No, but it sounds like he needs to grow a backbone and show her some tough love by kicking her out of the house.

[devilmunchkin]

at least permanently. she has run away twice in the past 2 months and he always says that if she leaves, she can't come back...but in the end, he always lets her..and thus she obviously never learns.
chances are he won't..and then i'm assuming that everyone is **** out of luck?

[nationalist]

Originally posted by devilmunchkin
at least permanently. she has run away twice in the past 2 months and he always says that if she leaves, she can't come back...but in the end, he always lets her..and thus she obviously never learns.
chances are he won't..and then i'm assuming that everyone is **** out of luck?

The ball is in his court. If he doesn't want to do something about it, then he is stuck witht he problem. You shouldn't worry yourself over it.

[Ned]

Again, I think the father has a duty to protect his daughter. The problem here is the "boyfriend." He sounds like a criminal. He really needs a lot of discipline. He should get it. Ned

[nationalist]

Originally posted by Ned
Again, I think the father has a duty to protect his daughter. The problem here is the "boyfriend." He sounds like a criminal. He really needs a lot of discipline. He should get it. Ned

Someone needs to kick his ass and lock him away for awhile. However, if the daughter chooses to date the scum then it indicates that she's not much better than her boyfriend.

[Gibsie]

Hmm, let's say abortion were to give the man absolution from the consequences.

A man who gets a woman pregnant and demands an abortion:
The woman gets the abortion, which is not pleasant. The man goes away happy as larry.
The woman doesn't get an abortion, and then has to raise the child with no help from the father. The man is still happy as larry.

But hey, who gives a **** about the girl? She should've kept her legs shut, eh?

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
I don't think he should have to pay if he makes his wishes known and the conception was not voluntary on his part.

How could the conception not be voluntary? Are you still having that problem with women trying to rape you KH?

[KrazyHorse]

Nope, but when I sleep with a woman I'm not consenting to conceive a child with her. This is why I use contraceptives. Saying that I've implicitily agreed to it is (if you'd bothered to read down a bit) the same as saying that I agree to get hit by a car every time I cross the street.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Saying that I've implicitily agreed to it is the same as saying that I agree to get hit by a car every time I cross the street.

I think a better comparison would be playing on the highway.

[KrazyHorse]

Yes. Using contraceptives while having sex is reckless.

Were you born an idiot, or did you have to work on it?

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Yes. Using contraceptives while having sex is reckless.

I didn't say that, I was saying casual sex is reckless.

You know full well what can happen when you have sex, you know that contraceptives are not 100%. If the woman get's pregnant, or someone gets and STD, the couple are responsible for it happening.

[Sava]

Re: Double Standard?

Originally posted by November Adam
Should a man who wants the woman he got pregnant to have an abortion, should he have to pay child support if she chooses not to?

Should a legal system that supports abortion be in the right to force him to do so?

That's a good question NA... on one side, I think it's wrong to force a woman to have abortion. But on the other hand, I don't think you can let the guy off the hook either. Abortion, while I am Pro-Choice, is against many peoples beliefs. I don't think its right to force something like that on a woman, or penalize her for not doing it. Both people knew the risk of pregnancy when they had sex. If the woman decides to not have an abortion, then the man should pay regardless.