Magic: The Gathering

[Jon Miller]

I would go white/green only unless you had some really strong red cards

the simpler the manna is the better usually

for the most part you need 12-32 good fighting creatures

do you have:
basking rootwala
disenchant
patrol hound
standard flagbearer
wild mongrel
nimble mongoose
mystic pentitent
longbow archer (good for pure white)
fleetfoot panther (for smaller creature decks)
confessor
lanowar elves
arrogant worm
coalition honor guard

you have some good green big creatures

what do you have that flys?

I agree walls suck

Jon Miller

[FrustratedPoet]

yeah, there's not a lot of use for walls really ... i've had some success with them in my blue control deck, but i have a very small card collection and wouldn't use them if i had a better alternative.

basking rootwalla and wild mongrel are some of the best commons around (they are common, right? haven't played for a while...) ... anyway, they're damn good

the flagbearer cards can be game-breakers if you use them right, and i don't think any green creature deck should ever be without 4 copies of llanowar elves (but since your deck is W/G then maybe you don't need 4).

several disenchants are also a must, otherwise those pesky control decks will cause you all sorts of problems ... but everyone knows that ...

every creature deck should have a few flyers, some griffins usually work best - there's one that is 2/1 First Strike i think.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
yeah, there's not a lot of use for walls really ... i've had some success with them in my blue control deck, but i have a very small card collection and wouldn't use them if i had a better alternative.

basking rootwalla and wild mongrel are some of the best commons around (they are common, right? haven't played for a while...) ... anyway, they're damn good

the flagbearer cards can be game-breakers if you use them right, and i don't think any green creature deck should ever be without 4 copies of llanowar elves (but since your deck is W/G then maybe you don't need 4).

several disenchants are also a must, otherwise those pesky control decks will cause you all sorts of problems ... but everyone knows that ...

every creature deck should have a few flyers, some griffins usually work best - there's one that is 2/1 First Strike i think.

that's the pegasus

the griffin is 2/2 first strike

Jon Miller

[FrustratedPoet]

oh, OK ... thanks man .

like i said, i haven't played for a while

[MrFun]

Ok, would it be possible to have a Magic: The Gathering club here on Apolyton??

[Velociryx]

My main reason for sugessting the splash of red would be pure burn. Especially by mid-game, when you've got your mana developed, it's always nice to be sitting on a couple of x spells to be able to sweep the board of pesky enemy weenies or follow up on one of your own attacks with a medium-sized fireball or something. And, if you make use of four of those disposable multi-colored mana producing artifacts and 4 of something else that produces off-color mana, you could safely add in 3-4 random burn spells just for grins without mucking things up toooo badly for yourself. Green and White are terriffic colors, and work well together, but if your opponent is watching it develop (playing him for the first time), you'll be able to stun him quite nicely when you whip out a juicy fireball to fry his buns....

As to the other comments, I totally agree re: Disenchant. If you're playing white, plan on using four in every white-based deck you make!

So...offhand, in this deck we're putting together, my recommendations would be:

4 Disenchant
4 Armadillo-Spirit-Link Thingys
4 Disposable Arty/Card Drawing/Mana Producing thingys
4 Other potentially red-mana producing cards (possibly those elves that provide one mana, your choice of color on casting, but mayhaps no)
4 Burn spells

Now all we need are some beefed up critters of a mix of colors, some fast effects to keep your opponents off balance, and a sprinkling of sorcery cards for grins, add land, stir, and bake for thirty minutes....

(note, you could prolly get by with only 3 disenchants, but....think probability...when you need one, you NEED one)

-=Vel=-

[FrustratedPoet]

agreed.
a splash of red for a few decent burn cards would be a nice addition, especially since the red mana for them would be gained from a creature instead of land, thereby not diluting the core mana supply for the W and G cards.

[Velociryx]

Yep....I'm thinking we got the makings of a solid deck here....won't be fancy, but then, it doesn't have to be...the coolio part about playing this deck, IMO, will be that, in the absence of having lots of redundancy in the rare suite, we'll have a wide *range* of effects at our disposal...the way it's shaping up, I think I'd get a real kick outta playing this one...

-=Vel=-

[Jon Miller]

I don't know what small creatures you have

you could definitely get some discard/threshold symmetry going with some of the cards out there

and
serra
ancient silverback
thorn elemental
penumbra worm

are all nice big creatures

with the armadillo cloaks you might not bother with them though

it all depends on what your small creatures are (20 good ones might be enough)

also card drawing is important, especially if you try to use the good threshold and discarding cards out there

hmm

I would definitely stick in devoted caretaker and pariah just because they are so good

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

there are some good elves that produce red

Jon Miller

[Jaakko]

I think it's probably best to stick with two colours, red doesn't splash too well here IMO (R/G/w would be a better three-colour balance).

Here's a quick G/W decklist:

4 Llanowar Elves
4 Basking Rootwalla
rock solid one-drops

4 Wild Mongrel
4 Patrol Hound
excellent bears, plus you now can abuse the madness mechanic

4 Fleetfoot Panther
4 Arrogant Wurm
some trickery and size

2 Voice of All
annoyer par excellence, plus it can break stalemates

4 Wax/Wane
almost a Disenchant, plus it's never a dead card

4 Armadillo Cloak
4 Strength of Isolation
the best enchantments available, pretty much

22 lands

Edit: I didn't take any of the rares into account here, so they should naturally be included whenever they do a job better.

[Jon Miller]

I agree that it is harder to splash red

and would still suggest a green/white deck

Jon Miller

[Chowlett]

I'll scare up a lit of my cheap (say, 2 or less?) G/W cards, and my single R cards sometime. I also have (which I forgot) more than 4 Quirion Elves - 1G - 1/1 Elf - choose a colour when it's brought into play. Tap: add G or one of that colour. Could be useful.

[Jon Miller]

hmm (modify Jaako's idea)

maybe 2 wax/wanes and 2 disenchants??

having no artifact destruction can be bad

not sure about voice of alls, seem expensive for less

also maybe down to 2 fleetfoot panthers (they have powerful defensive abilities, if your creature has terror played on it you can bounce it back to your hand with the fleetfoot panther)

then I would put in the pariah and the devoted caretaker

I would drop down to 20 land

I would stick in serra
Vengeful Dreams (goes real well with the madness things)

and then some good drawing
like stick in

2 vendurean enchantresses
and change your disenchants and wax/wanes to seal of cleansings (they might be too old though)

with seal of cleasings you would have 13 enchantments, without 9 so probably without would not be a good card drawing possibility

for card drawing there is of course the tomes and the mine (but I am unsure if that works well with the rest of the deck

does anybody have good card drawing suggestions

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Chowlett
I'll scare up a lit of my cheap (say, 2 or less?) G/W cards, and my single R cards sometime. I also have (which I forgot) more than 4 Quirion Elves - 1G - 1/1 Elf - choose a colour when it's brought into play. Tap: add G or one of that colour. Could be useful.

for multicolor quirion elves are good

I would still suggest 2 color white green though

do you have any of the mentioned cards?

Jon Miller