Why is Canada still a constitutional monarchy?

[notyoueither]

FST ranged in value, but many items were taxed at 13%.

Also, imported goods were not taxed. Exported goods were. Talk about a job killer. It was also hidden. So many people never even knew it was there. Hence the hew and cry over the GST.

I cheered for the GST.

Especially when you consider that everyone is now faced with the cost of government every time they buy something. You might appreciate that.

[- Groucho -]

Originally posted by Asher

Mulroney was a JOKE.
He was from Quebec, first of all.
Second of all, he introduced the GST. What kind of conservative would do that?!

Argh, the man was a liberal in disguise.

I'm missing something. What is anti-conservative about raising money through a regressive tax like the GST? I thought that was pro-conservative because the rich aren't disproportionately burdened in real dollar terms?

But I'm too tired to keep this up.

Charlottetown disease claims another victim.

[Asher]

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Originally posted by Tingkai
The problem with your proposal is that if we accept that Alberta gets more power because it is economically richer, would it not open the door to the idea that the rich man deserves more votes than the poor man?

Let's put it this way:
If you give $100 into a fund, and another guy gives $10 into a fund, why do they have equal say in how that fund is used, particularly when the usage of the fund determines how well both of them make money.

My point isn't specifically about contribution to the budget ,though.

It's about how Chretien doesn't feel the need to campaign here and see the needs of the people. He is so ARROGANT he simply IGNORES the entire province, while people like KH sit on their thumbs and say "Everything is A-okay!" Grrr...

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Echinda
I'm missing something. What is anti-conservative about raising money through a regressive tax like the GST? I thought that was pro-conservative because the rich aren't disproportionately burdened in real dollar terms?

It is far more progressive than the tax it replaced.

[KrazyHorse]

Ashie, honey

You're cute when you're angry. And as a point of order, I'm sitting on my ass, not my thumbs.

[Asher]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
You're cut when you're angry. And as a point of order, I'm sitting on my ass, not my thumbs.

Yes, but the question is where is your thumb?

[ravagon]

Re: Re: One last comment

Originally posted by Asher

Alberta makes up, what, 15% of the entire GDP?
Alberta gets, what, 5% of the voting power?

Um, I hate to point out the obvious but your point infers that Alberta should receive a higher representation because of its higher production. The plutocratic system implied here is far more akin to slavery than the present system.
Imagine if (scaling proportionally) Alberta made up 51% of the GDP with 20-odd percent of the population. Ergo the country is run by Alberta ...

[Seeker]

I can see Asher as the Albertan version of 'Braveheart'

L-G: "You stand accused of treason to your lawful Queen"

Asher: "Never, in my whole life, did I swear allegiance to him"

L-G (confused): "It matters not....she is your Queen"

By the way Asher, it is conservatives who kept the monarchy in place. Traditional, Anglican Tories are the monarchies staunchest allies in Ontario.

BTW, I am club treasurer of the Western United Empire Loyalists...(UEL).

Who do we have lunches with? It ain't the Young Liberals I'll tell you....true Blue all the way.

[Tingkai]

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Originally posted by Asher


Let's put it this way:
If you give $100 into a fund, and another guy gives $10 into a fund, why do they have equal say in how that fund is used, particularly when the usage of the fund determines how well both of them make money.

My point isn't specifically about contribution to the budget ,though.

It's about how Chretien doesn't feel the need to campaign here and see the needs of the people. He is so ARROGANT he simply IGNORES the entire province, while people like KH sit on their thumbs and say "Everything is A-okay!" Grrr...

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Albertans have no one to blame but themselves. If you never vote Liberal, they're not going to pay attention to you.

As for your money idea, you know the problems with it.

[Blisterz]

Originally posted by Asher
No wonder you guys keep electing Chretien.

Not me, I voted Alexa McDonough

[Deathwalker]

Just how much does the Queen cost Canada? and why?
Personally I don't care weather Canada goes Republic, just please learn from American and don't have a President.
They cost a hundred more times than a the Queen ever could and you cold end up with a complete idiot with absolute power. Prime Ministers are much better, they have to answer to Parliament on a regular basis, and Parliament can stop them from going to far. Presidents only have to answer once ever four years.
Also shouldn't Canada be spilt up two into a French speaking part and a English speaking part, isn't that a more important issue than a Queen that has no power.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Blisterz


Not me, I voted Alexa McDonough

So you're the one.

[Garth Vader]

So Asher wants a one dollar, one vote system You Albertans are too much like Americans

[- Groucho -]

Originally posted by Garth Vader
So Asher wants a one dollar, one vote system You Albertans are too much like Americans

How is that American? They are going through a huge political fight down here to reform campaign finance and the only issue is what kind of curbs on free speech are acceptable. No one is arguing that Boss Tweed / Mayor Daly style vote buying is acceptable.

Or were you just engaging in some knee-jerk America bashing?

[- Groucho -]

Originally posted by Deathwalker
Just how much does the Queen cost Canada? and why?
Personally I don't care weather Canada goes Republic, just please learn from American and don't have a President.
They cost a hundred more times than a the Queen ever could and you cold end up with a complete idiot with absolute power. Prime Ministers are much better, they have to answer to Parliament on a regular basis, and Parliament can stop them from going to far. Presidents only have to answer once ever four years.

Jean Chretien is no more accountable than a president. Party discipline reduces question period to a charade. Chretien is as likely to get a non-confidence vote as Bush is to get impeached.

Also shouldn't Canada be spilt up two into a French speaking part and a English speaking part, isn't that a more important issue than a Queen that has no power.

It is such an important issue that it is being discussed in another thread.