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  • #1

    Why is Canada still a constitutional monarchy?

    I've never understood this, so maybe somebody can explain this to me.

    Right now we have weird laws and regulations which bend around having the Queen technically be our head of state, but she can't do anything. We have a governor general with a beefy salary, and we shuttle her around the world to do siteseeing under the veil of "spreading Canadian culture".

    Why don't we just drop all of this overhead and become a republic?

    Is there any logical reason at all to wasting money on added loopholes, or is it simply sentimental value?

    Why can't the government put money saved from saving ridiculous monarchy-related expenses into the ailing public health care?
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  • #2
    Be careful, Asher

    Lèse-majesté is still a felony in Canada...
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    • #3
      Oh, and Asher: please produce a cost/benefit analysis on the monarchy in Canada. There are tourism/goodwill benefits inherent in our current relationship with the Crown.
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      • #4
        Lèse-majesté is still a felony in Canada...
        Another prime example of ridiculous Canadian laws.

        If I or any other real self-respecting conservative ever got into power there would be a LOT of changes to be made, and a lot of money to be saved.

        Refoooooooooooooorm.
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        • #5
          If we had started out as a republic, that would have been better, but I think that at this point cost savings aren't going to be realized by a switch. You would have to rewrite the constitution. That process and the consequent confusion over what the new constitution meant would probably end up costing far more than the cost of just sticking with what we've got.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by KrazyHorse
            Oh, and Asher: please produce a cost/benefit analysis on the monarchy in Canada. There are tourism/goodwill benefits inherent in our current relationship with the Crown.
            I don't need to know the specific costs, but I do know there are zero benefits.

            There are NOT tourism/goodwill benefits. You really think people come to Canada more simply because or symbolic head of state is an elderly Queen who's only been to the country once or twice in her entire life?
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            • #7
              No, but it is a factor in their decision. Until you can show me some specifics I'm going to tend not to believe that the economic impact is anything other than minuscule, one way or the other.
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              • #8
                And tradition is important, BTW. Ask our American neighbours if it would be okay to pave over Civil War battlegrounds, etc.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                  No, but it is a factor in their decision. Until you can show me some specifics I'm going to tend not to believe that the economic impact is anything other than minuscule, one way or the other.
                  I don't know specifics. You're stalling and counting on my laziness to win here.

                  There are obvious costs to the monarchy connection. Blatant ones such as the governor general and her non stop worldwide trips and accomodations.

                  There are no such obvious benefits.

                  Why do we keep latching onto a moneyhole? If your arm is poisonous you amputate it. More cost upfront but will save you money over time.
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                  • #10
                    Why is Canada still a constitutional monarchy?

                    She isn't ready to be annexed by the US right now.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Why is Canada still a constitutional monarchy?

                      To put it another way ... why not?

                      Quite frankly I fail to see the advantage in changing a system that seems to work fine the way it is.

                      Somehow I can't see that being under a republic would in any way remove loopholes. It'd just add new ones and more of them until the new system had the bugs worked out of it...
                      Money saved from the ridiculous monarchy-related expenses would go into ridiculous republic-related expenses rather than public health care.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Asher

                        I don't know specifics. You're stalling and counting on my laziness to win here.

                        There are obvious costs to the monarchy connection. Blatant ones such as the governor general and her non stop worldwide trips and accomodations.

                        There are no such obvious benefits.

                        Why do we keep latching onto a moneyhole? If your arm is poisonous you amputate it. More cost upfront but will save you money over time.
                        Why bother with national monuments? Why bother with stupid museums that need to be publicly-funded?

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                        • #13
                          Re: Re: Why is Canada still a constitutional monarchy?

                          Originally posted by ravagon
                          To put it another way ... why not?

                          Quite frankly I fail to see the advantage in changing a system that seems to work fine the way it is.
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                          Somehow I can't see that being under a republic would in any way remove loopholes.
                          Like having the Queen actually own every piece of land in Canada. That's ridiculous, and shouldn't be.

                          Money saved from the ridiculous monarchy-related expenses would go into ridiculous republic-related expenses rather than public health care.
                          Says who?
                          What republic-related expenses would be added? We've paying the cost for republic-related expenses on top of the useless symbolic monarchy expenses. Why oh why?
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                          • #14
                            Re: Re: Re: Why is Canada still a constitutional monarchy?

                            Originally posted by Asher
                            Like having the Queen actually own every piece of land in Canada. That's ridiculous, and shouldn't be
                            The alternative is to have the federal government own every piece of land in Canada...
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                            • #15
                              Hey Asher. Why do you want to upset the Queen? Want to make her cry? You big bully!
                              Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                              Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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