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Originally posted by Boddington's
"Gay men accounted for 80 per cent of new infections from 1981 to 1983, but by 1996 made up less than one-third of all new cases."
There you go. Given that 1% of populations are gay (liberal estimate), that means gays are way way more likely to be spreading AIDS.
And they started the ball rolling in the 80s as well, which could be even worse.
You don't even understand the concept of a link, Infat?
And I don't care about 1981 infection rates, I care about NOW.
Heterosexuals are RAPIDLY rising up on the infection rates. They passed homosexuals in the early 90s and continue to soar.
And 1% of the population is gay? Hahaha...yeah, okay, someone's in denial.
And in England, I wouldn't be surprised if the rate was as high as 40% from what I've seen.
I'm not talking sex without condoms. I've seen factual sites about this...gays actually ingest faeces, and lick arses. Straight teenaegrs don' do that!
They don't?
Have you ever had sexual relations, Stewie? I'm guessing not.
Many girls give oral sex. Many guys give cunnilingus. It goes both ways. And what makes you think all gays ingest faeces and lick arses? That's like saying all straight men go the backdoor on the woman...
All taxpayers have been a teenager at some point so there is no differentiation there.
However not everyone is gay.
Oh, so whoever is deemed "normal" shall benefit from lower taxes while "freaks" should pay more. How about black people? Are you going to say they're more likely to be violent and pay higher taxes as well?
HMOs?
You should pay health insurance based on your risk of incurring health costs. Gays thus should pay higher.
Similar to car insurance and drivers who indulge in risky unwarranted behaviour.
But the incurring health costs is NOT higher. Gays, in general, also lead healthier lifestyles according to many reports. They go to gyms more, they exercise more, they're less likely to be 40 year old men with beerbellies watching football matches and drinking every night away at the club like you will be.
You have NO facts or figures to back up your argument, you're trolling without a cause.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
Not if it is encouraging risky behaviour and spreading money from straights to gays (gays tend to earn more than straights so this is hardly fair wealth re-distribution; it's just the poor paying the rich in order that the rich can be increasingly risky)
Originally posted by Boddington's
Not if it is encouraging risky behaviour and spreading money from straights to gays (gays tend to earn more than straights so this is hardly fair wealth re-distribution; it's just the poor paying the rich in order that the rich can be increasingly risky)
a) Do you have any proof at all that gay men in general are more of a burden on the health system than straight men?
b) If you do, compare to the case of a rich diabetic. We don't charge him more because of his condition; we charge him more because he has more. If gays earn more than straight men then they are already paying higher taxes.
I read the posts from Wiggy and Boddington on this thread for some comic relief.
The Book of Myths and Distortions, by Wiggy and Boddington, published, 2001
1) AIDS is a gay disease
It was, but as a result of bisexuals having relations with gay men and straight women, they caught it off the gay men and passed on to the straight women.
2) homosexuals are mentally unstable, since they are unable to be productive members of society
I don't agree with this. You can be mentally stable too.
3) homosexuals are the same as pedophiles (not stated, but I bet that is what they believe)
No, homosexuals like men, paedophiles like children. Not the same.
4) coming out has no significant meaning, nor does it contain any legitimacy
You do it to let others know you're gay.
5) all gays are flamboyant and all gays are overly feminine
In general they are more feminine and flamboyant than straight men.
Some of these myths were not stated by Wiggy or Boddington, but how much you want to bet, based on their ignorance so far, this is what they believe.
Oh, Stewie, you didn't respond to my post. No sex for you tonight, little guy.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
5) all gays are flamboyant and all gays are overly feminine
Maybe not, but why do so many of the gay men I know tend to pick up exaggerated affectations?
Take me for example -- I'm not overly masculine, nor am I overly feminine. I am where most heterosexuals, homosexuals, and bisexuals lie -- towards the center.
I believe that both genders have some measure of both, masculinity and feminity in them, but one is either more dominant than the other, or you are towards the center.
But sometimes, just to bull**** or joke around, a guy who is not normally overly feminine will act like that just to express themselves in a funny way in certain situations.
Being overly feminine is a stereotype that many heterosexuals have of homosexuals, when it is more complicated than what they perceive to be.
A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.
Originally posted by Spectator
"Gay behavior" is found not only in humans but in a large number of spiecies such as dolphins, monkeys, lions, etc..
You're right Spec. I went to Sea World one time, and the dolphins there were so gay. Then there are those monkeys that wear those little hats and beg for money. They are so gay too.
He's got the Midas touch.
But he touched it too much!
Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!
Since homosexuality would be a trait that is selected against, the "biological disaster" you speak of will not occur.
It is occuring. We've lost millions of babies to homosexuality, if you think about it. Give them a tax deduction - their behavior, through the application of simple biology, must GO.
Or MAYBE where the birthrates are too high (like Africa), homosexuals should be sent there and then heterosexuals sent from there to where birthrates are declining?
And a new question -
Is having a low sperm count a sin? . Follow Wiglaf's logic.
Originally posted by Boddington's
But AIDS is pretty much the sole preserve of the homosexual classes and as so they should pay the cost of treatment.
Wtf are you talking about?! Are you directly out of the 80's??! From what rock did you crawl out from? AIDS is everybody's business and anybody can get it. You know Freddy Mercury died a long time ago, and the myth that only gays get AIDS also. Why do you think so many kids are born with AIDS?! Cause the're mom was infected before they got pregnant. And saying that Aids belongs to the gay community is like saying that all blondes are stupid. (Ok, bad example but you get my drift.) And why do you think they sell condoms in highschools? It's not just to prevent pregnancies....
wake up dude!!
Spec.
-Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Originally posted by Wiglaf
It is occuring. We've lost millions of babies to homosexuality, if you think about it. Give them a tax deduction - their behavior, through the application of simple biology, must GO.
Last time I checked, the human population is not decreasing, but is increasing just like it pretty much always has. So what are you talking about?
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The population of the so called western world is decreasing indead and the number of population can be helt only with a significant ammount of immigrants from the third world, which is increasing with a big rate.
So, according to Wiglaf's theory the rate of gays in the western world must be much higher than in the third world.
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