Should Homosexuals Recieve A Tax Deduction?

[Wiglaf]

I don't think it is worth arguing with homophobe (oppressed homosexual) wiggy.

That's remarkable because I've had a quite serious girlfriend for the last two damn years (several before that), Gianny, and never once a male one. What an ass that makes you.

Any relationship that is based on love and trust between two consenting adults is normal, since it is a basic human need. To deny that gays and bisexuals are entitled to fulfill that same basic human need, without sacrificing part of their identity, is morally wrong.

"Love" isn't a basic human need, the sex part is. That's common sense, our most powerful drive (next to survival, naturally) isn't being cared for or whatever, it's reproduction.

Those people who have claimed that they have changed, have not really changed their sexual orientation. They only changed their behavior -- acting straight, when they will always be gay for the rest of their lives.

Hmm..that's interesting. Well, as long as they "act straight" enough to reproduce, that's fine by me. Give 'em a tax deduction.

[MrFun]

But Wiggy, it is morally wrong to force any law-abiding adult citizen into forcing him/her to behave contrary to what part of their identity is. It makes their life less full, in a sense.

Homosexual couples have found other ways to produce their own biological children.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Wiglaf


That's remarkable because I've had a quite serious girlfriend for the last two damn years (several before that), Gianny, and never once a male one. What an ass that makes you.

I somehow doubt that. You probably are finishing off that post and jumping into bed with your boyfriend.

"Love" isn't a basic human need, the sex part is. That's common sense, our most powerful drive (next to survival, naturally) isn't being cared for or whatever, it's reproduction.

Pfft... you know nothing. What about those women who take birth control pills? Should they be considered a disease?

Hmm..that's interesting. Well, as long as they "act straight" enough to reproduce, that's fine by me. Give 'em a tax deduction.

You are one of the most homophobic dorks I know.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Wiglaf


That certainly is a ridiculous statement. Why do you think at puberty humans suddenly become extremely attracted to the opposite sex to the point of near insanity? Why do you think sex exists at all, and why do you think our bodies and minds naturally want to go along with it? You are always operating under the sex drive to further the species and to further the species only...therefore, all the times you've personally made love to a woman were most definitely influenced by the fact that the species simply must go on at all costs, whether you stopped to think about it or not.

Unless you think sex only exists to make you happy...

I wasn't near insane when puberty hit, I grew hair in strange places, my voice changed, i got erections and found out how to relieve them. But I'm not an animal, I can control those reactions.

No I don't think sex exists to make me happy, I undrstand the perpetuation of the species, however if it wasn't fun and didn't make me happy I wouldn't do it.

If YOU are always operating under the sex drive to further the species, YOU should get your tax deduction, because you need serious psychological help.

[MrFun]

One more thing Wiggy -- love is definitely a basic human need.

Humans since prehistoric times were and are, social creatures by nature.

Love is the most intimate way in which we seek to belong with one other special person. This helps the perpetuation of the species, but love is still a basic human need, regardless of sexual orientation.

[Wiglaf]

But Wiggy, it is morally wrong to force any law-abiding adult citizen into forcing him/her to behave contrary to what part of their identity is. It makes their life less full, in a sense.

We're operating under the assumption that the fat deserve a tax deduction, which in the great country of America they now do.

I somehow doubt that. You probably are finishing off that post and jumping into bed with your boyfriend.

Actually, Giancarlo, you're starting to cross the line with that crap. I don't know how insecure or immature you are, but I'd advise you to stop being such an ass, and quickly.

Love is the most intimate way in which we seek to belong with one other special person. This helps the perpetuation of the species, but love is still a basic human need, regardless of sexual orientation.

Wrong. Love doesn't help keep the species going, sex does. In the "prehistoric" times you speak of, love never really entered the equation anyway. It was all about "spreading the seed". That's sorta the way it still is. Developing a relationship is fine and dandy, but without reproducing it's totally empty as far as the species is concerned. If you don't have the urge to reproduce you need a deduction and quick.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Wiglaf


We're operating under the assumption that the fat deserve a tax deduction, which in the great country of America they now do.

Okay you should get a tax deduction for being mentality insane.

Actually, Giancarlo, you're starting to cross the line with that crap. I don't know how insecure or immature you are, but I'd advise you to stop being such an ass, and quickly.

And what would you do about wiggy?

[Wiglaf]

I wasn't near insane when puberty hit, I grew hair in strange places, my voice changed, i got erections and found out how to relieve them. But I'm not an animal, I can control those reactions.

Actually humans are animals, and the primary goal of puberty is to develop your reproductive system. A rather important and relevant trait of puberty you forgot to mention is the rapid creation of sperm in your body. Those are for use in the reproductive process if you haven't noticed.

Humans are built (as far as nature is concerned) to reproduce, not become lifelong friends with people of the same gender.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Wiglaf


Wrong. Love doesn't help keep the species going, sex does. In the "prehistoric" times you speak of, love never really entered the equation anyway. It was all about "spreading the seed". That's sorta the way it still is. Developing a relationship is fine and dandy, but without reproducing it's totally empty as far as the species is concerned. If you don't have the urge to reproduce you need a deduction and quick.

So by your reasoning, if you were to rape somebody and claim it was for the purposes of "spreading the seed", that is fine and dandy too.

[Wiglaf]

No...normal is wanting to reproduce and accomplishing it without violence. (we established this earlier...)

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
No...normal is wanting to reproduce and accomplishing it without violence. (we established this earlier...)

Since the dawen of time man has used violence to get what he wants. So with your logic violence would be normal.

[Wiglaf]

Killing other humans isn't really all that beneficial to the species as a whole, now is it? Rapists and murderers are screwed up.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
Killing other humans isn't really all that beneficial to the species as a whole, now is it? Rapists and murderers are screwed up.

It's called natural selection.

Most animals do it.

[Wiglaf]

Bull****.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
Bull****.

Ah. Obviously. Everything you have said is the same thing. But I've been able to counter your arguements, obviously you can not do the same.