Should Homosexuals Recieve A Tax Deduction?

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
I can always look forward to you adding a good deal of sauce and spice to each thread you elect to spread your amazingly unyielding joy in, Guynemer. Chalk me up as forever changed and my soul eternally uplifted by your remarkable contribution to this discussion.

The fact of the matter is, Guynie, you can't (and no one can, really) say that homosexuality isn't a problem. Saying it's on the same level as obesity on the public health crisis scale is being rather generous after all.

Unless you think being gay (the biolgical equal of cutting your balls off) isn't a big deal?

No, it's not a big deal. It's not even a little deal. It's not a deal at all. It just is. You know any gay people, Wiggy? Why don't you ask them your questions?

And besides, you never answered mine--whose DL are you?

[MrFun]

Wiggy's Quote:
the biolgical equal of cutting your balls off

Where did he say this!?

Homosexuality and bisexuality are not the equivalent of castration, since we still enjoy sexual intercourse.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Boddington's


I'd rather not have to trawl through sites depicting acts of homosexual behaviour thank you very much.

Let MrFun tell you what antics they get up to by Private Message or soemthing.

The kinky behavior, and some of the disgusting behavior you are alluding to is not exclusively inherent of homosexuals and bisexuals.

It is based on an INDIVIDUAL'S choice on what they want to do -- for better or worse.

I am gay, and I have no kinks, and find myself disgusted with -- well, disgusting behavior. As do the majority of homosexuals and bisexuals.

How ignorant can you be, Boddington??

[Wiglaf]

I am gay, and I have no kinks, and find myself disgusted with -- well, disgusting behavior.

To most people, sex with another guy is considered as disgusting as it gets.

Homosexuality and bisexuality are not the equivalent of castration, since we still enjoy sexual intercourse.

Homosexuals do not reproduce.

[finkian]

Wiglaf, you nut, how many times do people have to tell you that homosexuals DO in fact reproduce? I know many a gay person with children, either with surrogate mothers, because they are bisexual, or any reason. So drop the whole gay people don't reproduce crap.

[Wiglaf]

The majority of the ones that want kids adopt.

[finkian]

I'm so amused that you can sound so sure of yourself, when, in fact, I can surmise (due to your incredible ignorance) that you've never even KNOWN a gay person, much less spoken to one in real life, met their families, met their partners, seen how they actually interact with society. Adoption? Do you know how hard it is to adopt a child if you're a gay couple? No, sorry, dude, you lose on that one-- the majority of gay couples with children spawned them themselves, "castrated" and all.

[SociableMartian]

Originally posted by MrFun
Homosexuality and bisexuality are not the equivalent of castration, since we still enjoy sexual intercourse.

Castrated people enjoy sexual intercourse as well, even many people catrated before puberty... that doesn't change the fact that you can never have children. People who can never have children are just a burden on society, I think it's time you faced up to it. You are in the wrong and you need straightning out NOW, weather it be by a deduction or by compulsory sex reeducation. Either way face it, you can and will be moulded into productive members of society and I think within 20 years when this gay fad is over most people will strongly agree with me (as all societies in history have).

[MrFun]

Originally posted by SociableMartian


Castrated people enjoy sexual intercourse as well, even many people catrated before puberty... that doesn't change the fact that you can never have children. People who can never have children are just a burden on society, I think it's time you faced up to it. You are in the wrong and you need straightning out NOW, weather it be by a deduction or by compulsory sex reeducation. Either way face it, you can and will be moulded into productive members of society and I think within 20 years when this gay fad is over most people will strongly agree with me (as all societies in history have).

Nope, I am completely comfortable and happy as a gay man.

And being gay is not a fad when there has been homosexuality since prehistoric times.

Homosexuals, bisexuals, and heterosexuals are ALL legitimate groups of people based on sexual orientation. The social double standards that are forced upon homosexuals and bisexuals out of ignorance and hatred need to be thrown away.

I am getting tired of arguing with people like you, Wiggy, and Boddington, who cannot argue without using hate-loaded language, or ignorant language.

[SociableMartian]

Originally posted by MrFun
Nope, I am completely comfortable and happy as a gay man.

You'd be happier on the *STRAIGHT* and narrow.

And being gay is not a fad when there has been homosexuality since prehistoric times.

Maybe not, but gay acceptance is a new thing. Before gays were happier finding proper, productive straight relationships. Nowadays I think they've gone too far. Get back in the closet guys, and don't come back out.

Homosexuals, bisexuals, and heterosexuals are ALL legitimate groups of people based on sexual orientation. The social double standards that are forced upon homosexuals and bisexuals out of ignorance and hatred need to be thrown away

They're not double standards, they're just a healthy straight view of a potentially dangerous practise.

I am getting tired of arguing with people like you, Wiggy, and Boddington, who cannot argue without using hate-loaded language, or ignorant language.

I don't hate gays, I care for them, and I hope they can be shown the true light of healthy, normal relationships before they damage themselves in irreperable ways.

[MrFun]

SociableMartian, clearly you are grossly ignorant about the concept of sexual orientation development and the different sexual orientations.

And, it really does seem that you hate gays when you cannot accept their identity, and try to tell other people how they will be happy, when it is up to them to decide how they will be happy.

Being true to ourselves is the way to be truly happy.

[SociableMartian]

Originally posted by MrFun
SociableMartian, clearly you are grossly ignorant about the concept of sexual orientation development and the different sexual orientations.

I know enough about sexual orientations to know that the only true healthy orientation is straight, normal, and hetrosexual, and that this orientation is the one that satisfied 99.5% of the population (don't believe me look up the studies done in recent years).

And, it really does seem that you hate gays when you cannot accept their identity, and try to tell other people how they will be happy, when it is up to them to decide how they will be happy.

Well, I accept they exist, and I accept they are happy with themselves. But many paedophiles and murderers are happy with themselves too, and they along with gays should not be permitted to choose how to satisfy themselves without enlightened guidance from the rest of society. There is still hope for all these groups, all equally disadvantages in my opinion.

[Wiglaf]

Good points SM.

I am getting tired of arguing with people like you, Wiggy, and Boddington, who cannot argue without using hate-loaded language, or ignorant language.

Oh calm the hell down. There was no hate in any post in this thread at all, ever. Get over it, this is a civilized and very constructive arguement - hate to see how you respond to *gasp* actual personal insults IRL. Grow some balls and stop whining please.

SociableMartian, clearly you are grossly ignorant about the concept of sexual orientation development and the different sexual orientations.

He's ignorant?! You still haven't admitted that, through the application of simple biology (how many times have I said this), homosexuality is a rather negative trait that can only end in disaster for the species should it get out of control. We evolve up, not down - any new development in the body that lessens the chance for normal reproduction isn't a positive one, whether you can still try and make test tube babies despite it or not. Therefore, homosexuality is a disorder and you're insane to say you're proud to have it. See where I'm going with that?

[Guynemer]

DLs... DLs everywhere...

So much dancing to be done.

Wiggy, you're awfully stubborn on this whole not-revealing-your-true-identity thing. I must admit, you do a better job of keeping it not quite totally obvious when compared to our Martian friend. I give that login another two days, tops.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by SociableMartian


I know enough about sexual orientations to know that the only true healthy orientation is straight, normal, and hetrosexual, and that this orientation is the one that satisfied 99.5% of the population (don't believe me look up the studies done in recent years).

Well, I accept they exist, and I accept they are happy with themselves. But many paedophiles and murderers are happy with themselves too, and they along with gays should not be permitted to choose how to satisfy themselves without enlightened guidance from the rest of society. There is still hope for all these groups, all equally disadvantages in my opinion.

Actually, about 5% of the world's population is gay.

There is NO justice in comparing homosexuals and bisexuals to pedophiles and murderers.

The ignorance and hatred from Wiggy, SociableMartian, and Boddington are becoming too much for even me to handle. I need to put them on the Ignore feature.

What does anyone else think -- is it better to put them on ignore now??

The arguments from Wiggy, Boddington, and SociableMartian were NOT constructive, they were not intelligent.

They were loaded with offensive, ignorant remarks that have no substantial backing in sociology, psychology, or any other legitimate field of studies.

I need to put them on ignore, but for those of you who put these trio on ignore, have you guys been better off that way on Apolyton??