French Bias attacks mount

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
In any war, you attack an enemy at his weak point.

Children? Women? Teenagers?

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
In any war, you attack an enemy at his weak point. [/quote]
The IDF is far too strong to be combatted directly, so the only option left is to take the war to its supporters.

That is ****ing biased.

Fine then - if you approve that it is ok to attack an enemy at his weak point, I'll call up Sharon and tell him to cleanse palestinian civilians.

It's their weak point.

You say it's ok for palestinians to do, so it must be the same for IDF. You aren't biased aren't you?

[q]It is completely hypocritical for Americans to decry the horrors of suicide bombers while it was applauding the complete destruction of the civilian infrastructures of Iraq and Yugoslavia. [/quote]
It is completely hypocritical to compare the legitimate targetting of productional infrastructure, and the unforunate collateral damage, to a pre-mediated massacare of innocent civilians.

Collateral damage = no premeditation = ok.
terror = premeditation = not ok.

Feh! A suicide bobmer has nothing on American death from the skies.

"death from the skies"...

what are we, back to year 1000 BC? "big metalic birds?"

It's all propoganda and exagguration.

If anything, planes are big large and can be struck down .

Terrorists hide them selves among innocent people putting their live in danger - on purpose.

Just today, palestinian terrorists hid in a church in Bethlehem, and took the monks hostage. They forcefully try to use them as human shields for an escape.

And you claim that is somehow more moral that making legitimate war?

A soldier would do all he could to avoid hitting you/

A terrorist would lure you into coming nearer and then shoot you and escape.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Chris 62
Saw something you might be interested in yesterday.

A woman, with numbers tatooed on her arm, demanding the UN cease it's anti-semitism.

Speaks volumes about your Euro pals, doesn't it, Horsey?

Not really.

The ADL has been screaming anti-Semitism about the story about the arrest of the 120 Israeli spies. If you can't argue facts, confuse the issue by screaming anti-Semitism and racism.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Children? Women? Teenagers?

It's not an ethical judgement.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Just today, palestinian terrorists hid in a church in Bethlehem, and took the monks hostage. They forcefully try to use them as human shields for an escape.

If you are talking about the Church of Naitivity, Pals went into the church to hide out, and Israeli forces broke down the doors, violating a Christian site.

[Chris 62]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

The ADL has been screaming anti-Semitism about the story about the arrest of the 120 Israeli spies. If you can't argue facts, confuse the issue by screaming anti-Semitism and racism.

Or you can just claim it doesn't exisit and work from there, eh Che?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
It's not an ethical judgement.

Ethics is what makes me give grudging respect to guerrillas as opposed to terrorists.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by Chris 62
Saw something you might be interested in yesterday.

A woman, with numbers tatooed on her arm, demanding the UN cease it's anti-semitism.

Speaks volumes about your Euro pals, doesn't it, Horsey?

Chris, Chris, its only a black and white issue in your tiny mind. The United States has a long tradition of anti-semitism.

Similarly there are many Israelis who do not support Sharon's policies and there are many Palestinians who do not support terror tactics.

As usual, innocent people are getting killed on both sides.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov

It is completely hypocritical for Americans to decry the horrors of suicide bombers while it was applauding the complete destruction of the civilian infrastructures of Iraq and Yugoslavia.

It is completely hypocritical to compare the legitimate targetting of productional infrastructure, and the unforunate collateral damage, to a pre-mediated massacare of innocent civilians.

Collateral damage = no premeditation = ok.
terror = premeditation = not ok.

If I target a building that I know has civilians in it, and they die, that is premeditation. If I destroy the water source for an entire nation, that is premeditation. If I blow up a pharmasuetical factory, knowing that without the medicines it produces, tens of thsousands will die, that is premeditation. And it is intended. The deaths from these targets were not incidental, they were the intended result.

Feh! A suicide bobmer has nothing on American death from the skies.

"death from the skies"...

what are we, back to year 1000 BC? "big metalic birds?"

It's all propoganda and exagguration.

If anything, planes are big large and can be struck down .

Only one planes was shot down by Yugoslavia (a stealth plane, ironcically enough). Only an handful of planes were shot down by the Iraqis.

Terrorists hide them selves among innocent people putting their live in danger - on purpose.

Just today, palestinian terrorists hid in a church in Bethlehem, and took the monks hostage. They forcefully try to use them as human shields for an escape.

As I understand it, you are invading their city. They are fighting back. Anyways, it was the Israelis who killed a Catholic priest and injured some nuns, not the Palestinians.

And you claim that is somehow more moral that making legitimate war?

I made no claim of morality.

A soldier would do all he could to avoid hitting you/

A terrorist would lure you into coming nearer and then shoot you and escape.

That's why Israeli soldiers lure Palestinian children out to throw stones?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Chris 62
Or you can just claim it doesn't exisit and work from there, eh Che?

No, just saying that you saying that some death camp victim is accusing the UN of anti-Semitism doesn't make it so without evidence. Where is her evidence?

[Felch]

Che and Imran have seemingly taken the point of view that killing innocent people is okay because everybody does it.

It's not okay when the US does it, it's not okay when Israel does it, it's not okay when Red China does it, and it's not okay when Palestinians do it.

I think the people here would be content if you two would simply take a consistent and strong stance that intentionally targeting and killing innocent civilians is unacceptable under any circumstances.

All you have to do is the right thing.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
As I understand it, you are invading their city. They are fighting back. Anyways, it was the Israelis who killed a Catholic priest and injured some nuns, not the Palestinians.

The Vatican said that the priest was alive and well.

[Chris 62]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Chris, Chris, its only a black and white issue in your tiny mind.

Comparred to you, dear boy, I'm Stephen Hawking,

The United States has a long tradition of anti-semitism.

That's the usual evasion, instead of adressing something, point and say "Look! They are doing it!"
You will have to do much better.

Similarly there are many Israelis who do not support Sharon's policies and there are many Palestinians who do not support terror tactics.

Has nothing to do with bias attacks in Europe, now does it?

As usual, innocent people are getting killed on both sides.

First intelligent thing you said here, only took about 70 posts, a record for you!

[Imran Siddiqui]

Felch: We are saying it is hypocritical for Americans to condemn Palestinian suicide bombings in light of our history.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The reasons, Siro, is because the Israeli masters don't grant building permits to Arabs, so they must find another way to build housing.

Not exact.

The problem is that most rural arabs build their houses themselves or using illegally hired contractors.

To get a building lisence you need approved contractors, ownership of the land (actually liecing it from the state - jews and arabs alike have to do that).

Furthremore, you must submit plans, get them approved, get them in line with the city scape plans.

Now, most arab villages, are very traditional and don't agree to change building patterns. They want to build according to their traditional structuring. They trust the government to come and build roads etc.

But look at this for instance, in my neighborhood, only recently a new school was completed for arabs (as a recognized minority they have thier own study program). Also, two buildings, of the talles in haifa were built near by - no doubt will be mostly populated by Arabs.

So it's not always as simple and as racist as your palestinian propogandists try to present it.