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  • #31
    Oh, and Horsey, this little ditty doesn't help your case:

    "A researcher on the question of Palestine refugees and their Right of Return. Born in Beer Sheba - Palestine. Graduated from Cairo University "

    Not a tad bias, is he?
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
      Er Chris, I think you'll find the United States is virtually alone in supporting Israel in the current conflict.

      BTW, what does this have to do with the topic of this thread? Are you saying that anyone who disagrees with Israeli policy has the right to blow up their local synagogue?


      LOTM
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      • #33
        Well the fact is, as the article I posted and any number of others show, that the Palestinains had clear title to land, that the seized land is known and that the Israeli authorities themselves have precise records of all the land they seized.

        So, what an ignorant fool you are Chris.
        Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

        Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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        • #34
          Horsey was just trolling, trying to get a rise out of me.

          I doubt he has a real opinion on the whole matter.

          Notice how nobody addressed the bias attcks.
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          i'm an ignorant greek...MarkG

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          • #35
            While I do believe that Israel's occupation has led (mostly) to what we have now, attacking innocents knowing full well that they are innocents is beyond the pale. Israel is within her rights to defend herself.

            How can the world community accept suicide bombings against known civilian targets? It doesn't matter how poor you are or oppressed. The world just can't accept it, because anything would be justifiable, if so.

            Now how does this tie into these attacks Jews. It really doesn't have anything to do with it.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
              Israel is fully to blame because of its illegal and brutal occupation of Palestinian lands. They are reaping what they sow.

              The suicide bombers are a symptom of years and years of maltreatment, injustice and occupation. I think the suicide bombing are wrong but the Palestinians have been pushed to it by frustration at Israeli intransigence.


              Hear, Hear Horsie!

              I love hearing how Israel is totally innocent in this while they actively oppress Palestinian areas. Kind of like saying the Brits were innocent of the whole colonialism thing that don't know why those damned Boers were raising such a stink .

              Israel is not totally innocent - no one in this world is totally innocent - but no one has the right to deliberately murder civilians like this. The US is not totally innocent, by any means - does that justify 9/11, imram?
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
                Well the fact is, as the article I posted and any number of others show, that the Palestinains had clear title to land, that the seized land is known and that the Israeli authorities themselves have precise records of all the land they seized.
                It shows that Arafats propaganda net has reached the web is about all.

                So, what an ignorant fool you are Chris.
                Man, your trolling is really half-assed today, wife cut you off again?
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                i'm an ignorant greek...MarkG

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Chris 62
                  Horsey was just trolling, trying to get a rise out of me.

                  I doubt he has a real opinion on the whole matter.

                  Notice how nobody addressed the bias attcks.
                  Why don't you attack the substance of the article or its sources, most of which are not Palestinian? Are you a bigot?

                  For Christ's sake, on the land issue he spend most of his time providing ISRAELI sources!
                  Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                  Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by DanS
                    While I do believe that Israel's occupation has led (mostly) to what we have now, attacking innocents knowing full well that they are innocents is beyond the pale. Israel is within her rights to defend herself.

                    How can the world community accept suicide bombings against known civilian targets? It doesn't matter how poor you are or oppressed. The world just can't accept it, because anything would be justifiable, if so.


                    Indeed, Shimon Peres (NOT Sharon) has said that if the world community accepts and rewards the suicide bombing, we will see more of them all around the world.

                    LOTM
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by lord of the mark
                      The US is not totally innocent, by any means - does that justify 9/11, imram?
                      According to his previous statements in another thread, we deserved 9/11 because of our support for Isreal.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
                        Why don't you attack the substance of the article or its sources, most of which are not Palestinian? Are you a bigot?
                        They are as relevant to the truth as Mein Kampf is to reality.

                        For Christ's sake, on the land issue he spend most of his time providing ISRAELI sources!
                        Sure he does.
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                        • #42
                          The US is not totally innocent, by any means - does that justify 9/11


                          Part of it is definetly our fault. Unlike Israel though, we don't actively oppress Arabs and make them into second class citizens (we reserved that right for the AmerIndians). Osama just wanted to strike back at the West and, I believe, created reasons to do so. He was in no way oppressed (look at his bank account). However, our short-sighted foriegn policy in the MidEast gained him followers.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Chris 62

                            They are as relevant to the truth as Mein Kampf is to reality.
                            Okay smart arse - impeach his sources. I know you won't because you can't.

                            He points out that an Israeli Government authority controls most if not all the seized land in Israel and rents it to Jews. I suppose that public authority is lying too and part of some Palestinian plot

                            Do you think you could make a bigger fool of yourself Chris or are you done at this point?
                            Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                            Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                            • #44
                              I don't see indians exploding.
                              Nor do I see blacks exploding.

                              Why? They are / were opressed much more.

                              Israel has 1.1 free arab citizens. We don't make them 2nd class citizens.

                              It is since Arafat came to power that terror attacks grew.



                              And AH, how does the ME war justify an attack on Jews around the world?

                              Are we feeling racist today?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
                                Okay smart arse - impeach his sources. I know you won't because you can't.
                                Why bother with obvious tripe?

                                He points out that an Israeli Government authority controls most if not all the seized land in Israel and rents it to Jews. I suppose that public authority is lying too and part of some Palestinian plot
                                And how, pray tell, does that make them Pal lands?
                                And better yet, what does it have to do with french and German bias attacks against Jews?

                                Do you think you could make a bigger fool of yourself Chris or are you done at this point?
                                You would have to look in the mirror to see the only fool in this thread, dear boy!
                                I believe Saddam because his position is backed up by logic and reason...David Floyd
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