Arafat an enemy - a cease fire suggestion that came too late

[Eli]

They are insufferable, Imran. In couple months the number of the Israeli casualties will be equal to the number of soldiers killed in the Six Days War.

[Eli]

Did anyone see CNN now?! Christiane Amanpour interviewed Arafat and asked gently whether he will fight violence(not terror). Arafat started screaming like mad, "shut up, you're talking with General Yasser Arafat!" and more and then hanged up.

[Eli]

A better summary of what happened in the interview :

Christian Amanpour : "Powell said you should fight violence, are you going to do this?"
Arafat : "Do you ask me while i'm under siege? You're a bad journalist! You should respect your proffesion! You need to know how to talk when you talk with General Arafat!"
Amanpour : "I just asked if..."
Arafat : "Shut up! Shut up!"
Amanpour shocked.
Arafat : "[swears in Arabic] goodbye". Hangs up.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Arafat was right. Stop the violence while he's totally trapped? What an idiotic, moronic question.

One thing that Israel's actions will do is prevent the US from attacking Iraq anytime soon. The Arab nations won't stand for it.

[KrazyHorse]

Especially given that the Saudis and Kuwaitis now seem to have shaken hands and made up with Iraq.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
Ahh I get so tierd of all this. ****s hits the fan in Israel/Palestina as usual and some Israeli must come hear and post a new thread about it without the interest of listening to arguments at all. It's almost as pointless as the conflict.

I actually do participate in duscussion even though I usually disagree with ya'll.

I posted this thread to clearify the news from the Israeli p.o.v.

I post what I think and what is in the Israeli news.

I don't think one could survive if all he ahd to rely on was CNN.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
You're going to piss on Arafat's compound for weeks? I guess you're trying to flood him out of the country. A novel idea.

ROFL

If a camera catches Arafat dying while defending himself against Israelis the hawks amongst the Pal's will get a very nice martyr indeed...

Very true.

That's why we decided not to exile or execute him. That would create a martyr.

Oh yeah, and some say it's immoral to do this without a trial

[Kropotkin]

You should stop watching CNN...

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by Ramo
Y'all are shooting yourselves in the foot.

Arafat's a bastard, but he's a veritable moderate in comparison to the other major elements of power in Palestinian society, namely the terrorist groups. Undermine him, and don't be surprised to see the Hamas or the Islamic Jihad filling the power vacuum.

That's what we used to think as well.

However, we've come to clearly see, that not only does Arafat not stop Hamas and Jihad when he doesn't wish to do so, he infact coordinates their actions and provides them money and weapons (Karin A).

Arafat's men usually meet with representatives of Hamas and Jihad and tell them when to stop terracts, and when to continue.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by Ecthelion
While I can see that is welcome news to the Israeli population, it doesn't justify the attacks on ambulances.

We didn't attack an ambulance.

We stopped it and searched it.

If it doesn't stop, however, we must assume it has something to hide.

And it doesn't justify the shooting of a man laying naked on the ground after being held by the police, either.

That has nothing to do with that incident.

Saddest is, the US supports Israel, thereby making history go the wrong way

It's troll, troll....

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Arafat was right. Stop the violence while he's totally trapped? What an idiotic, moronic question.

That's again his excuse for everything.

He wasn't f**king trapped for the last two weeks, and yet he didnt' do anything to stop the violence then!

He wasn't f**king trapped for the last 18 months, and yet he did nothing to stop the violence then!

So don't give me this "he's trapped" sh!t.

He wasn't trapped for long enough time. Too long.

[Kropotkin]

Excuse me Siro but I do think that those statements about Arafat are quite speculative at this point in time. It is possible of cource.

In case you didn't see it on CNN, in that case it must be true.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
You should stop watching CNN...

Maybe.

BBC is far far worse.

Just two days ago there was an interview with an Israeli representative, and just as he began explaining the situation well, the reporter quickly interefered and asked him another question, and when he ignored it and continued to mention the terror before 1967, he was cut off the air.

"We haven't enough time, thank you Gideon Meier, we'll let you get back to your family" she said.

HAVEN'T ENOUGH TIME??

She just asked him a different question for God's sake.

The truth is, they news editor, didn't want people to hear the truth. Terror didn't start after the occupation. It started way before.

[Kropotkin]

...And that of cource justifies the ocupation....

[August Borms]

I dont know what to think abut the palestien and isreal

the palestinneasn should have their own state

but the islamx fundamentalsts should be crushed