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  • #136
    Oh my God!!!

    Giancarlo has come out of his closet!?

    congrats

    Queer as Folk is my favorite show for me -- it ranks above Will & Grace.
    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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    • #137
      Mr. Fun, I wouldn't be shocked. Giancarlo has come out of the closet, changed political affiliations, etc etc, too many times so that the regular observer would postulate he'll go back to what he was shortly enough.
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • #138
        Originally posted by MrFun
        Oh my God!!!

        Giancarlo has come out of his closet!?

        congrats

        Queer as Folk is my favorite show for me -- it ranks above Will & Grace.
        Thanks...

        Btw my favorite character on QAF (US) is Justin.
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • #139
          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
          Mr. Fun, I wouldn't be shocked. Giancarlo has come out of the closet, changed political affiliations, etc etc, too many times so that the regular observer would postulate he'll go back to what he was shortly enough.
          I have stuck conservative. I haven't changed. I may have went from hardline conservativism to moderate conservatism in the last few months.

          I mean what difference does it make if I am gay? None. Is it really a big deal so that you must squabble over it?
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • #140
            Giancarlo's closet has a revolving door.
            The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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            • #141
              Originally posted by Guynemer


              So goes the conventional wisdom. Various studies have estimated anything from 3% to 20%, if I recall correctly.
              Actually modern estimates are LESS than 1%. A study was done in the 50's which used an answer if men had ever had a thought about another man to estimate the gay population at 10%. This was used to start a popular organization called the 10% society.No real studies have ever been done to make an exact count of gays, and most estimates have used surveys involving experimental sexual situations NOT actual gay people. I am sure if we just went door to door and asked we would get the right #s
              The ideas of gay life are also way over represented on tv and in Hollywood due to the larger % of gay people involved. Go to some other areas of America and I bet you would be hard pressed to find any gays.
              I am guessing the gay Olympics at least won't have the problems the Salt Lake City ones did with corruption of the Olympic officials.

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              • #142
                Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny
                Giancarlo's closet has a revolving door.
                I do not understand??

                Has Giancarlo actually come out before in the past and then tried to take it back saying what he said was a mistake??

                And another thing -- you can adhere to almost any political ideology and be straight, gay or bisexual.
                A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                • #143
                  Originally posted by MrFun


                  I do not understand??

                  Has Giancarlo actually come out before in the past and then tried to take it back saying what he said was a mistake??

                  And another thing -- you can adhere to almost any political ideology and be straight, gay or bisexual.
                  I had many problems during that time... I now accept it because it is the way I am. I don't see what the big deal about it is.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #144
                    Originally posted by vlad

                    Go to some other areas of America and I bet you would be hard pressed to find any gays.
                    Name a specific state or area.

                    I live in Iowa and guess what?? Des Moines by itself has four gay-oriented nightclubs, Davenport, where I live, has two gay-oriented nightclubs. There are gay-oriented nightclubs all across Iowa, with most cities having at least one.

                    And in almost any good-sized city in Iowa, you will find an established gay community organization.

                    And in any rural town of even less than 1,000 people, you can bet that there are still a few people in each of those small towns that are openly gay or closeted.

                    I believe that the world's population is 5% homosexual.
                    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                    • #145
                      Well, MrFun how about different countries like Argentina, Spain or Italy? In Buenos Aires I can't find one gay club, bar or anything like that anywhere. And this city has 14 million people.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #146
                        In cities, states, or countries where it is officially illegal to have gay-oriented nightclubs, they could be driven underground and operate.

                        And, in cities where there are no gay-oriented nightclubs does not mean there are no gays in those areas.

                        Gays are in every city on this planet.
                        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                        • #147
                          I dunno if it is illegal here, but I hear courts around here issue warrants to shut gay bars down everytime one is discovered.

                          I know there are gays in this city, and they (I for one do) must feel bad that they can't even express themselves outside because they fear that the police might beat them up.

                          Infact, you reminded me of something that happened in Egypt. Egyptian Courts ordered several dozen people to prison because they were in a gay club.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #148
                            Originally posted by Giancarlo
                            Well, MrFun how about different countries like Argentina, Spain or Italy? In Buenos Aires I can't find one gay club, bar or anything like that anywhere. And this city has 14 million people.
                            There has to be! Have you asked other gay people who live around there?
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                            • #149
                              Well in Iowa its also normal to .......... lol just kidding. Of course there are gay clubs all over in any big city and a few hundred people that are regualr customers along with many straight folks. Now how many regular bars does Des Moines have? I am guessing more than the % difference. A poor example, but one where I grew up is central Wisconsin. There any gays that might have been born there have gone to larger cities and skewed their % of gay population.Another area would be large retirement communities or even bible belt communities(excepting catholic priest areas ) I really doubt in rural towns of 1000 there are 50 gays or even 25 for that matter, but hey I am not a gay census worker so who knows. Perhaps its 30% and they are all hiding somewhere. Living the past 18 years in a high gay populated Madison,Wisconsin I sure became used to gay population areas. Now that I am in BC,Canada I certainly see less.
                              I think we should get Starchild to go door to door and count every gay member of the world Hmmm perhaps not since he would never get the job done once he made new friends
                              I agree with the less than 1% theory, but I think its a statistic that we will never truly know + or - 10%.

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                              • #150
                                Originally posted by Caligastia


                                There has to be! Have you asked other gay people who live around there?
                                There isn't a gay part of town here, like in San Francisco... and the police are not somebody they would want to confront.

                                http://www.groovyannies.com/news/1999/press91.html - This is slightly old, but it only has gotten worse.
                                Last edited by Giancarlo; March 28, 2002, 17:26.
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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