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  • #31
    Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
    Its probably some Euro-greenie terrorists trying to impede industrial progress.

    Ya what idiots. They attacked the tunnels in france. europe is filled with those kinds of whacko's.

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    • #32
      Oh ya. NLA is a splinter group of the KLA. NLA operates in Presevo and Macedonia. KLA is largely disbanded. But commanders are whoring out there weaponry to there neighbors.

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      • #33
        Paiktis, once again, you are being a disgrace to all your compatriots.

        Somebody blew up an electrical pylon. So what? Any wacko could have done this.

        The Norwegians fought bravely in WW2 against the Germans like we did. They fought alone, with British support like we did. They had Quisling, we had Tsolakoglou. Their seamen fought around the globe against the Axis, just like ours did.

        We have more in common with them than we think. We are both seafaring people. Our countries are nothing but mountains and sea. In the old days, young 14 year old lads from the fjords and shepherds from the mountains boarded ocean going ships and risked their lives to provide for their poor families, just as our boys did.

        sniff... I'm just getting sentimental.

        As far as whales are concerned, Onasis made half of his fortune whaling outside of Peru.
        "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
        George Orwell

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        • #34
          Wasn't Paiktis the one criticizing American military action against terrorists?

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          • #35
            Hey Axi, you sure know a lot about Norway! Interesting comparison between the countries.

            I have read some Greek history. Herodotus was nice especially when talking about the Persians, including the Magi tribe/priesthood/sorcerers. The endless warstories between Greece and Persia got a little tedious though.

            Anyways a lot of the classics is Greek litterature:

            List of authors for browing titles, part of the Internet Classics Archive


            I'd like to read all/some of it except Homer I think. Of the Roman authors I'd like to read Cicero's speaches. He was the greatest speaker in antiquity. I have his boring letters - nothing but politics and intrigues.

            Greek mythology though is boring to me. And all those city-state tyrant-stories and as mentioned, those endless wars with present day TURKEY.

            Just to make the history section here complete I can mention that I'd like to read more classic Jewish history around the time of Jesus. The Jews have some great bible/history commentaries, but I can't find them on the net.

            and shepherds from the mountains boarded ocean going ships and risked their lives to provide for their poor families, just as our boys did.
            The Norwegian captain of the ship "The World" - the new luxury condo ship for really rich ppl, is a guy from inland Norway, from a mountain-village called Skjåk. He probably could have been a shepherd if he didn't go to sea.

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            • #36
              Axi, you're no fun.

              All serious and sucking up

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              • #37
                Besides see what you did?

                Originally posted by Faeelin
                Wasn't Paiktis the one criticizing American military action against terrorists?
                Now they think I'm the communist

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by axi
                  Somebody blew up an electrical pylon. So what? Any wacko could have done this.
                  BTW I'm afraid it's not so simple or care-free that incident.

                  It was a clear act of sabotage. Tell me how often electric pylars of ambicious projects get blown up?

                  As far as I remember (and I'm not counting pissed off locals next to airports or mining sites) this has hardly ever happened before.

                  It's anything from represals from the albanian mafia for the crackdown against them to politically motivated "warning signs" against the Greek - Turkish cooperation.

                  I doubt it was some Dodecathean followers Artemis lovin' wackos.

                  Of course the government plays it down. Like it does all things since it likes taking care of problems "under the table".

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Lars-E
                    The timid Greeks are so afraid of the Turkeys (read Turks) that they have mined the border area. They obviously don't care that 'innocent' refugees get blown to hell here all the time trying to get access to fortress Europe. The mines are probably still only laying around unofficially so that refugees will die and not enter the promised land.
                    I thought that both Greeks and Turkish had mines layed out all over their borders
                    It is not matter of care. Minefields are there for defence reasons.
                    Greek-Turkish relations were always hostile so I do find a reason for mines to be there.

                    Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave
                    Why doesn't Greece conquer Albania, ancient Greek land?
                    Why do I have the feeling that this is irony?
                    I guess some people don't bother to understand some fundamental principles

                    Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave
                    seriously,

                    down here you always have plenty of candidates. Albania, FYROMia, Turkey

                    What you need is some NATO action to protect you
                    Seriously, we can handle all of them as far as you don't stick your nose around

                    Originally posted by Lars-E
                    No that's about research. Only a small amount is killed. And no, whales are not ppl.
                    Well, all whales left together is a small amount
                    Oh, don't worry Lars, we all know that whales are not poeple
                    Besides with clonning underway you will soon have plenty of them to kill for fun

                    Originally posted by Lars-E
                    Greece is probably only a transit country. Who wants to stay in the poor part of the EU?
                    Well, according to their previous living conditions Greece is a paradise for them...

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Lars-E
                      Norway? They'll probably live long and prosper. Norway being the best country in the world to live in - according to the UN.
                      Yes, Norway is a rich and prosperus country, far better than my country but immigrants don't search for the best country. They search for a better country and they can find it in Greece as well

                      Originally posted by Lars-E
                      I think the Nazis are more active in Sweden and Germany than in this quiet peaceful part of the world. Yes, we try to create peace in areas of the world where ppl are unable to help themselves
                      Great! Give some money to the poor Africans to prevent them from dieing by famine or AIDS and leave the retain of peace to others...

                      Originally posted by Lars-E
                      Who wouldn't wanna live in the best country in the world (source: UN).

                      Well, yes, but you said that already
                      It is pitty when some persons are busting people's balls because their country became great a few years or decades ago while for hundreds of years they were behind in prosperity and culture...

                      Originally posted by faded glory
                      NLA operates in Presevo and Macedonia.
                      That is FYROM Faded.
                      Perhaps it doesn't matter when you talk with your American fellows but here can't really know which area are you refering to. FYROM or Macedonia?

                      Originally posted by axi
                      Paiktis, once again, you are being a disgrace to all your compatriots.
                      I will have to agree with Axi on this paiktis
                      You can't just jump into rush concusions and accuse everyone like that

                      Originally posted by Lars-E
                      I have read some Greek history.
                      Have you read anything else exept war events? Like Greek art, litterature, science, philosophy? I mean really read them not just take a snapshot?

                      Originally posted by Lars-E
                      Of the Roman authors I'd like to read Cicero's speaches. He was the greatest speaker in antiquity. I have his boring letters - nothing but politics and intrigues.
                      And have you read any of the Greek rhetor?

                      Originally posted by paiktis22
                      It was a clear act of sabotage.
                      I agree.

                      Originally posted by paiktis22
                      I doubt it was some Dodecathean followers Artemis lovin' wackos.
                      It could be but I a doubt too. The electric pylar was 500 meters from the Greek-Albanian borders so it is likely that the one who blew it came from Albania and went back. Besides why the hell blow the closest to the borders pylar if not from Albania?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Keygen
                        I will have to agree with Axi on this paiktis
                        You can't just jump into rush concusions and accuse everyone like that
                        It's trolling Keygen It's fun

                        The electric pylar was 500 meters from the Greek-Albanian borders so it is likely that the one who blew it came from Albania and went back. Besides why the hell blow the closest to the borders pylar if not from Albania?
                        Very true. And if I was PM (classical phrase ) I'd mine the albanian border and good luck to all

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Keygen
                          Great! Give some money to the poor Africans to prevent them from dieing by famine or AIDS and leave the retain of peace to others...
                          Giving out money as well thankyou

                          Well, yes, but you said that already
                          It is pitty when some persons are busting people's balls because their country became great a few years or decades ago while for hundreds of years they were behind in prosperity and culture...
                          So I was getting up close and personal with paiktis22... Don't think so.

                          I wasn't degrading your country and you know it. Paiktis22 on the other hand as axi pointed out...

                          Wealth? Live with it. Newly rich ppl are often accused of showing off and being tacky/vulgar.

                          For some reason you turned a blind eye to my question to paiktis22: "How am I doing on the smugness thermometer?".

                          And here's a new concept for you: TROLL. Yes, they actually come from my country. It's part of our folklore.

                          You got something in your eye Wink wink. Sense of humor is also common at Apolyton. Too much feta cheese?

                          So we have been behind Greece economy-wise in the past? Leave out economy and you're probably right.

                          Have you read anything else exept war events? Like Greek art, litterature, science, philosophy? I mean really read them not just take a snapshot?
                          What do you think ppl learn in school? Greek history and "wisdom" is an essential part of human history.

                          I read some philosophy and other Geeky stuff at uni.

                          Have you read any Nordic history??

                          And have you read any of the Greek rhetor?
                          The rethors of Areopagus? Any recommendations?

                          I know that Paul was called a babbler by some Greeks, possibly Areopagans. Guess they felt he was "worse" than them:

                          RSV Acts 17:16-23
                          Now while Paul was waiting for them at Athens, his spirit was provoked within him as he saw that the city was full of idols. So he argued in the synagogue with the Jews and the devout persons, and in the market place every day with those who chanced to be there. Some also of the Epicurean and Stoic philosophers met him. And some said, "What would this babbler say?" Others said, "He seems to be a preacher of foreign divinities" --because he preached Jesus and the resurrection. And they took hold of him and brought him to the Are-op'agus, saying, "May we know what this new teaching is which you present? For you bring some strange things to our ears; we wish to know therefore what these things mean." Now all the Athenians and the foreigners who lived there spent their time in nothing except telling or hearing something new. So Paul, standing in the middle of the Are-op'agus, said: "Men of Athens, I perceive that in every way you are very religious. For as I passed along, and observed the objects of your worship, I found also an altar with this inscription, 'To an unknown god.' What therefore you worship as unknown, this I proclaim to you.
                          Last edited by Lars-E; March 20, 2002, 10:05.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Lars-E

                            I wasn't degrading your country and you know it. Paiktis22 on the other hand as axi pointed out...
                            I was trolling you, you dufus!
                            Besides, if you have nothing to hide...

                            Newly rich ppl are often accused of showing off and being tacky/vulgar.
                            Aye. We call them peasants, Lars (Vlahoi to brush up your greek )

                            For some reason you turned a blind eye to my question to paiktis22: "How am I doing on the smugness thermometer?".
                            Yup. Mutually Assured Trolling


                            For as I passed along, and observed the objects of your worship, I found also an altar with this inscription, 'To an unknown god.' What therefore you worship as unknown, this I proclaim to you.
                            Yup. Historic phrase and very well known.

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                            • #44
                              Small correction:

                              "to THE unknown god"

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                              • #45
                                Let's tighten the Greco-Norwegian relations!

                                Greek men + Norwegian girls = Summer 2002!

                                I doubt it was some Dodecathean followers Artemis lovin' wackos.
                                I know some of those wackos. They are the most low-tempered and innocent people on earth.

                                And if I was PM (classical phrase ) I'd mine the albanian border and good luck to all
                                The border IS mined in some places. This has the sad effect of several donkeys owned by drug dealers to accidentally blow up. These people load the stuff on a donkey and send it alone across the border, since these animals can usually find their way home. They do not risk getting arrested that way by the border police. However sometimes they go a little out of the way and... kaboom!

                                This is also a hint on the extremely low price that marijuana has in Albania, since they don't mind losing a few loads by sending the animals alone across.

                                Have you read any Nordic history??
                                Does Tolkien count? He used alot of stuff from the Nordic mythology. That is if you are referring to mythology too, because pure history I don't know much about. I bet there isn't much to it, except from barbarian raids, until the Reformation.
                                "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
                                George Orwell

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