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  • #31
    Originally posted by Mark L


    From the Guardian.
    The Guardian... like hell I would believe that liberal newspaper. More uncredible sources.

    Ethopia only has a capacity of having up to 320,000 especially when their military budget for 2000 is only $168 Million according to the CIA Factbook.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #32


      600,000 troops deployed



      ethiopians outnumber eritrians 20 to 1



      total number of troops in the millions.
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      • #33
        Again I don't listen to overbloated statements made by the Guardian or any other liberal news paper.

        And how the hell could ethiopia have a 1 million men army when it only has up to 600,000 are fit for service?
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • #34
          From CIA:

          Military manpower - military age: 18 years of age
          Military manpower - availability: males age 15-49: 14,537,884 (2001 est.)
          Military manpower - fit for military service: males age 15-49: 7,581,815 (2001 est.)
          Military manpower - reaching military age annually: males: 703,625 (2001 est.)
          Military expenditures - dollar figure: $138 million (FY98/99)

          Note that the expenditures are figures from years ago. Also, it doesn't cost much to call up some civilians afghanistan-style. I won't be surprised if most young men have been called up in Ethiopia to fight.
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          • #35
            And how the hell could ethiopia have a 1 million men army when it only has up to 600,000 are fit for service?
            The CIA says it has 7 million fir for service
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            • #36
              Just curious, why would the west knowingly give $3b to a part in an obscure war in Africa?
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Mark L


                The CIA says it has 7 million fir for service
                I meant men reaching military age... only 700,000. So how could 6 million be possible. 7 million cannot be deployed because it is not fiscally possible, because $3 billion is not even close to enough to arm an army of 400,000.

                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • #38
                  Wouldn't be the first time the west would do something like that. Though I believe that money is from foreign aid, since the countries are so damn poor. Of course, they buy weapons and not food.

                  I meant men reaching military age... only 700,000.
                  That's still 100,000 more than you claimed. PLus, what does this have to do with the total size? Or are you suggesting Ethiopia gets more than 700,000 soldiers killed every year and have to be replaced?

                  So how could 6 million be possible. 7 million cannot be deployed because it is not fiscally possible, because $3 billion is not even close to enough to arm an army of 400,000.
                  $3,000,000,000
                  400,000 troops
                  $7500 per soldier
                  Average yearly wage, per capita: $600
                  Total money left for weapons: $6900

                  More than enough to buy some crap cheap russian-made rifle.
                  Last edited by Saint Marcus; December 3, 2001, 19:18.
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                  • #39
                    You still have no credible evidence to prove any of this.
                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • #40
                      Plus the money recieved illegally and through looting. More than enough.

                      BTW, where are your sources? I think giani's posts here are of the same level as his claims that the usa supported franco in the spanish civil war, that cloning hitler would be dangerous somehow, and that giani isn't gay.
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                      • #41
                        You still have no credible evidence to prove any of this.
                        I posted several independant sources. You posted none.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Mark L
                          Wouldn't be the first time the west would do something like that.
                          But WHY?
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                          • #43
                            Because there is a famine. People are dying. People are hungry. People are poor. West feels sympatetic. West sends money. Leaders there buy weapons. Leaders there don't buy food for the people.

                            Classic story.
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                            • #44
                              Giani's claims:

                              1. Ethiopia's army is "probably" 100,000 big
                              2. Ethiopian army is twice as big as Eritrea's
                              3. Ethiopia's army is smaller than 320,000
                              4. Ethiopia has 600,000 men fit for service
                              5. 3 billion USD isn't enough to arm 400,000 troops

                              No sources at all. Other sources give completely different figures:

                              1. Ethiopia's army is between the 600,000 and 6,000,000
                              2. Ethiopia's army is 20 times as big as Eritrea's (which would make sense, since the country is about 20 times as big)
                              3. Ethiopia's army is between the 600,000 and 6,000,000
                              4. Ethiopia has 7,581,815 men fit for service

                              And simple maths shows:

                              5. 3 billion USD is more than enough to arm 400,000 troops.

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                              • #45
                                Gianni you need to chill out.

                                Ethiopia has one of the best airforces in the world.

                                When I said WW3 I mean WW3. Its simple logic...if we are taking all these actions.....something is gonna give. The assyrians and iranians might as well join in the frey aswell......or they themselves will be next!

                                We will see......but remind me to bump this thread when Syrian and Iraqi tanks roll into Turkey

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