The X-Box is here -- Are you ready? ;)

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Eroberer
Joypads. That's what it was. I'll look at them. I remembered the review saying they were pretty useless, though.

Saddly Nintendo seems to be the only company that is able to design a decent control pad, IMO.

[Eroberer]

I have heard only good things about this one. I really don't remember what I heard about the joypad. I'm gonna go take a look at the Gamecube controller though.

[Asher]

Supposedly the controller for the Xbox was designed after "thousands" of hours of ergonomic and playability testing with "thousands" of real gamers.

[November Adam]

Sigh.. I'm married and have no disposable income. X-box, drool... gonna have to knock over a Quikie Mart.

Personally I think the biggest thing about it is the harddrive. A DVD that can dump it's contents onto this thing is going to make this system per. Fewer load screens (if any), larger worlds, more detail.

My only hang up is the controler, but then until I get one in my paws I really can't say.

Nov. 15.. trying to convince everyone and anyone if they get this for my birthday I'll never ask for anything again. (well until the next big thing)

[Asher]

Good luck finding one on your birthday (which is Nov 15, what a coincidence).

Supposedly supply is going to be quite tight.

[Asher]

I'm really confused about the poll results.

What makes the PS2 so popular?

The graphics on it don't really blow me away, and the games aren't too great either (many argue Dreamcast had better games).

Is it because of the backwards compatability with the original PS?

[Zer0_T0lerance]

Originally posted by Asher
I'm really confused about the poll results.

Well, duh! That's because your a Microsoft freak!

[Asher]

Originally posted by Zer0_T0lerance
Well, duh! That's because your a Microsoft freak!

You seep wit as well as intellect.
Wonderful.

And actually, I don't care who made it. I'd buy it if Sega made it, if Toshiba made it, etc.

You should really get a clue, btw.

[Zer0_T0lerance]

Originally posted by Asher
You seep wit as well as intellect.
Wonderful.

And actually, I don't care who made it. I'd buy it if Sega made it, if Toshiba made it, etc.

You should really get a clue, btw.

Don't care??


I still say you're a Microsoft freakazoid!

[Asher]

Originally posted by Zer0_T0lerance
I still say you're a Microsoft freakazoid!

It's okay to be wrong sometimes, you know.
Accept it and move on, deal with your stunning stupidity.

[Moral Hazard]

Bah! Technical performance means very little. It's all about the games. The only exclusive Game I think is Halo; which although it's recieved good reviews won't be enough.

The Cheapest I've seen the Xbox is $400, while the Game Cube is $230, and the PS2 is $300; that's without any games. BTW I heard PS2 going to drop it's price when Xbox is released.

I've also heard rumors about possible production shortages, not horrible shortages but there will be less Xboxes available than Gamecubes.

Speaking of rumors I've heard some bad ones concerning the Xbox, like it will cost $100 per game (actual price is $60). Which undoubtable is marketing failure by Microsoft, haven't heard any nasty rumors about the game cube.

Oh another nasty rumor is that Square may be getting in bed with Nintendo and going exclusive on some new games for the gamecube. (not sure of the validity of this.)

My opinion: I'm currently happy with my playstation, if I upgraded now it would be to the PS2, because of the larger game library it currently has.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Bah! Technical performance means very little. It's all about the games. The only exclusive Game I think is Halo; which although it's recieved good reviews won't be enough.

Munch's Odyssey looks good as well.
And for me, technical performance means a helluva lot.
If it really means very little to you, why don't you still play SNES? There's plenty of good games out for that.

I have a similar opinion on the PS2, however. The only game I am even remotely interested out on the PS2 is Gran Turismo 3. And that console has been out for a year already.

I've heard many horror stories about PS2 development (you can't run in max resolution with anti-aliasing on due to memory constraints, etc), while the Xbox was designed to meet developer's demands.

The Cheapest I've seen the Xbox is $400, while the Game Cube is $230, and the PS2 is $300; that's without any games. BTW I heard PS2 going to drop it's price when Xbox is released.

Erm...you're looking at the packages.
Microsoft's plan is to match the PS2's price at all times, which means it's $299US per unit. Even here, the Xbox by itself is $480CDN, which translates to roughly $299US. For $600CDN you get an extra controller, two games, DVD playback kit.

I've also heard rumors about possible production shortages, not horrible shortages but there will be less Xboxes available than Gamecubes.

There were going to be shortages (reportedly due to Sept 11), which is why the launch was delayed a week.

Speaking of rumors I've heard some bad ones concerning the Xbox, like it will cost $100 per game (actual price is $60). Which undoubtable is marketing failure by Microsoft, haven't heard any nasty rumors about the game cube.

Probably has to do with which websites you frequent when looking for news.
Rumors mean absolutely nothing.

Oh another nasty rumor is that Square may be getting in bed with Nintendo and going exclusive on some new games for the gamecube. (not sure of the validity of this.)

Actually, this was denied a while ago.
Square is actually developing some Xbox titles now, and is supposedly going to move away from the Playstation.

Edit: http://shop.store.yahoo.com/gamelizard/xbox-system.html
Xbox was on sale for $299.99 there. Too bad the preorders were through the roof.
Gamecube was on sale for $199.99: http://shop.store.yahoo.com/gamelizard/ngc-system.html
Both of those are the expected retail prices once the initial overcharge for preorders die down.
Playstation 2 is also $299.99: http://shop.store.yahoo.com/idm2000/sonplay2ps2c.html

[SnowFire]

Why the PS2? Sure, it's not that great technically, but it looks like evil will triumph again. Don't say I wanted it to win, but it looks like it. And yes, it's all about the games. I'd have been interested in Halo had it come out on PC- I really like Bungie- but I'm not coughing up the massive dough to get it on XBox. What else does XBox have for it? Well, Shenmue II will be coming out exclusively for it, which sucks since a Dreamcast version was already made. Drat. Perhaps I'll rent an XBox someday to play Shenmue 2.

Anyway, I still only have a NES, SNES, & PSX... and I got the PSX really really late. My roommate has a PS2 and Dreamcast which I can play off of, and I suspect I will most likely get a PS2 late, just like the PSX, after the price has dropped and there are quite a few games out there for it.

But the PS2 is quite useful for DVDs (who cares about raw power, and just get the hi-definition cables), and FFX will be coming out for it... though I intend to pick up the PC version myself, despite EA's hideous PC port of FF8. Also, while I haven't played it quite yet, Devil May Cry is tons of fun to watch and has wasted a good bit of my roommate's time. As for the future, I'll probably get the PS2 eventually because of
Grandia X
Star Ocean 3
Xenosaga
Wild ARMs 3
... and so on, which unfortunately will most likely only come out in PS2 versions.

Plus, PSX's are so horrible with regards to maintenance and keeping them going that when they die, you might as well upgrade to a PS2, you know?

[Asher]

Erm...fair enough.

I've never even heard of any of those games myself.

Guess we just have different taste in games, then.

[Moral Hazard]

Let me put it this way relating to tech. Jaguar was technically superior but it failed (poor marketing, as well) PS's technical superiority didn't help until companies abandoned SNES. Same thing goes.

The rumours I cited were not from web sites but from game stores, I know their innacurate a never to be trusted, but people make thier decisions based on these. The bias appears to be toward the Game cube is all.

Concerning bundles they were all around $500 on Gamespot's gamebuyer. The only non-bundled ones were $400.

edit: read your edit. now. Um PS2 prices should drop anyway.