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  • Originally posted by techumseh


    Oh spare me. He's well enough to run for re-election and to direct a war and plan a new one, etc., etc., etc. What's this crap about his "condition"? As if that has anything to do with his choice of attire.
    Mindlessness. You display it perfectly.

    The man has had four heart attacks I believe. And he didn't do much campaigning. He's behind the scenes. And he isn't exactly the one directing the war, but is part of it.

    You need help, dude. Your beliefs are getting in the way of common logic.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • Although... I do have to ask why he is in the office if he can't do the job. If Bush had a sudden heart attack, Cheney would be the one to step in, but he doesn't seem capable of doing the job.

      Speaker of the House is 3. Who is 4? You might just need that person if 1 goes since 2 seems to be very fragile.
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      • Please tell me it's SoState. Oh please?

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        • Originally posted by notyoueither
          Although... I do have to ask why he is in the office if he can't do the job. If Bush had a sudden heart attack, Cheney would be the one to step in, but he doesn't seem capable of doing the job.

          Speaker of the House is 3. Who is 4? You might just need that person if 1 goes since 2 seems to be very fragile.
          Bush's health is pretty stellar.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • So is that of about 5000 other 50 year old Americans who are due to die of sudden massive coronaries this upcoming year.

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            • Originally posted by notyoueither
              So is that of about 5000 other 50 year old Americans who are due to die of sudden massive coronaries this upcoming year.

              Think happy thoughts.
              He has had health check-ups, and his health is pretty much in the top 1% for his age bracket.

              Essayist Alfred Lubrano reflects on President Bush's recent check-up, which showed that he's as healthy as a professional athelete.


              This is from 2001, but I've heard he pretty much has kept this up.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • Originally posted by Giancarlo


                Mindlessness. You display it perfectly.

                The man has had four heart attacks I believe. And he didn't do much campaigning. He's behind the scenes. And he isn't exactly the one directing the war, but is part of it.

                You need help, dude. Your beliefs are getting in the way of common logic.
                I'm sure you don't see the irony in your feeble insults, Fez. The real Fes was a master of it, but he couldn't see it either. He just WAS it. You too.

                No one has yet offered any rationale for the connection betwwen Biggus Dickus dressing like Bob or Doug McKenzie, and protecting himself from a heart attack. As I've pointed out, there ARE warm clothes that would have been suitable. Did he really have to wear hiking boots? But hey, if you're not concerned about how he represents you, who am I to criticize? He's your vice president. I just wonder, what would you say if it had been Al Gore?
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                • Originally posted by techumseh


                  I'm sure you don't see the irony in your feeble insults, Fez. The real Fes was a master of it, but he couldn't see it either. He just WAS it. You too.
                  Address me by my real name. Then I'll stop calling you names.

                  No one has yet offered any rationale for the connection betwwen Biggus Dickus dressing like Bob or Doug McKenzie, and protecting himself from a heart attack. As I've pointed out, there ARE warm clothes that would have been suitable. Did he really have to wear hiking boots? But hey, if you're not concerned about how he represents you, who am I to criticize? He's your vice president. I just wonder, what would you say if it had been Al Gore?
                  You don't have justification for your statements. Cheney has a health history, and if he wants to be warm in a blistering cold he should be allowed. Sheesh what the hell is wrong with that?

                  You're a fraud.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • Originally posted by notyoueither
                    Although... I do have to ask why he is in the office if he can't do the job. If Bush had a sudden heart attack, Cheney would be the one to step in, but he doesn't seem capable of doing the job.

                    Speaker of the House is 3. Who is 4? You might just need that person if 1 goes since 2 seems to be very fragile.
                    Akk, finally someone makes this comment.
                    He just signed up for this 4 year gig, me thinks the job is a bit too bog do it at 50% max.

                    Cheney's clothing sense
                    Making an issue out of this
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                    Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                    • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                      Heart patients aren't supposed to be out in the bitter cold, if they can help it.


                      Yep. That is another fact lost on the people making a big deal out of this.


                      I confess when I first saw him, I too thought;

                      'Good grief, wtf are you wearing? It's a solemn commemoration, not a fishing trip...'

                      And then I thought- 'he's there, he's had major heart surgery, he's American. He's absolved from issues relating to dress sense and good taste.' ( )


                      But seriously- so he looked different from the Eurocom leaders- big hairy deal. He wasn't wearing a clown suit or a swastika-endowed fancy dress uniform.

                      The dead don't care what he was wearing, and if the survivors and relatives of the survivors don't care either, then for once Lon Cheney is o.k. by me.


                      You who live safe
                      In your warm houses,
                      You who find, returning in the evening,
                      Hot food and friendly faces:
                      Consider if this is a man
                      Who works in the mud
                      Who does not know peace
                      Who fights for a scrap of bread
                      Who dies because of a yes or no.
                      Consider if this is a woman,
                      Without hair and without name
                      With no more strength to remember,
                      Her eyes empty and her womb cold
                      Like a frog in winter.
                      Meditate that this came about:
                      I commend these words to you.
                      Carve them in your hearts
                      At home, in the street,
                      Going to bed, rising;
                      Repeat them to your children,
                      Or may your house fall apart,
                      May illness impede you,
                      May your children turn their faces from you.

                      Primo Levi: If this is a man


                      Cheney at least showed up, in bitter, sub-zero temperatures to bear witness to mass murder and suffering- millions of people around the world in warm houses, with hot food, comfortable and safe, will not have given the day and the events it recalls a moment's thought.
                      Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                      ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                      • Originally posted by notyoueither
                        Although... I do have to ask why he is in the office if he can't do the job. If Bush had a sudden heart attack, Cheney would be the one to step in, but he doesn't seem capable of doing the job.

                        Speaker of the House is 3. Who is 4? You might just need that person if 1 goes since 2 seems to be very fragile.
                        nye raises an interesting point. Why has Bush elected Cheney as VP for yet another turn when he is well aware of his medical condition? Surely there must be other members os his administration who are just as qualified? Condoleeza for instance Edit: D´oh! nye already made that joke...
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                        • I suggest more posters waste their energy in this thread: http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...hreadid=128665
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                          • Should you liberal commies be the ones AGAINST dress codes?

                            At leas your black trench coats in high school and pull over unwashed parkas at every event in college would lead to such a conclusion.

                            And you guys think your not prudes.
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                            • Originally posted by Patroklos
                              Should you liberal commies be the ones AGAINST dress codes?

                              At leas your black trench coats in high school and pull over unwashed parkas at every event in college would lead to such a conclusion.

                              And you guys think your not prudes.
                              How many "liberal Commies" in this thread have criticized Cheney for his clothes, in comparison of those who have dismissed this criticism as irrelevant/stupid ?
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                              • Originally posted by Berzerker

                                One of Rush Limbaugh's lines about liberals is they believe in symbolism over substance.
                                That's not characteristic of the Left, but of stupid people. I'm not seeing any shortage of such thinking from the Right either.
                                Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

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