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  • Here's what I'd do:

    Originally posted by mindseye
    Whenever a Chinese person asks me about Americans torturing prisoners, I just want to dig a hole and crawl in.
    Since they're just being an ass, you could respond by asking them about the distorted sex ratios brought about by China's One Child Policy and the backwards attitudes they have about women.
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    • Originally posted by notyoueither


      Attacking the basis of support has been a method of warfare since the mid 19th century. In fact, it was a Yank named Sherman who pioneered it, I think.
      I must've misunderstood the thought behind Assyrian deportations.
      A civil war is nastier in degree than any other type of war.
      Really? Having your country invaded by a foreign power and having the better part of its population exterminated (as happened to the Herero and the Jungars, for instance) is less nasty than a civil war?
      Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

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      • Re: Here's what I'd do:

        Originally posted by DinoDoc
        Since they're just being an ass, you could respond by asking them about the distorted sex ratios brought about by China's One Child Policy and the backwards attitudes they have about women.
        Their attitudes about women is highly likely to be more progressive than yours.
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        • Originally posted by notyoueither
          I don't think it would be a good idea for the Americans to instigate 'death squads', but on the other hand I'm not going to be quick to condemn Iraqi authorities for getting rough if it is their choice.
          But you think overthrowing Saddam is a good thing.

          That's an interesting contradiction.
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          • NYE worte:
            Mistake(s)? That's a gentle way to put it.


            How big of mistakes? Should the regime(s) be toppled?

            Should their heirs be free to run maneuvers in Tiananmen?

            No, the regime shouldn't be toppled, and yes, their heirs should be free to run manoeuvres on Tiananmen Squre. Forcing regime change in the PRC spells nuclear war.
            Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

            It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
            The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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            • Originally posted by Urban Ranger


              But you think overthrowing Saddam is a good thing.

              That's an interesting contradiction.
              Considering that Saddam is credited with hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilian deaths, I'd say whoever wins the election has a bit of a credit to start with.
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              • Re: Re: Here's what I'd do:

                Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                Their attitudes about women is highly likely to be more progressive than yours.
                See. The typical response is unininformed BS. You too can have fun with "They do it too, Mommy!" trolls.
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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                • Originally posted by Last Conformist
                  NYE worte:
                  Mistake(s)? That's a gentle way to put it.


                  How big of mistakes? Should the regime(s) be toppled?

                  Should their heirs be free to run maneuvers in Tiananmen?

                  No, the regime shouldn't be toppled, and yes, their heirs should be free to run manoeuvres on Tiananmen Squre. Forcing regime change in the PRC spells nuclear war.
                  Nice try. Did it occur to you that Chinese citizens themselves could elect to force a change?
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                  • Originally posted by Last Conformist
                    Really? Having your country invaded by a foreign power and having the better part of its population exterminated (as happened to the Herero and the Jungars, for instance) is less nasty than a civil war?
                    Very good. Have a banana. I should have said 'a civil war is more often nastier in degree than any other type of war.'
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                    • Originally posted by notyoueither
                      Nice try. Did it occur to you that Chinese citizens themselves could elect to force a change?
                      No.
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                      • The tanks stopped. It's a start.
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                        • This whole thread could have been for nothing.


                          Ya think?
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                          • Re: Re: Re: Here's what I'd do:

                            Originally posted by DinoDoc
                            See. The typical response is unininformed BS. You too can have fun with "They do it too, Mommy!" trolls.
                            Own goal.

                            How much do you know about the attitude of mindseye's friends and students towards women?
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                            • Originally posted by notyoueither
                              Considering that Saddam is credited with hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilian deaths, I'd say whoever wins the election has a bit of a credit to start with.
                              With the help of death squads?

                              laffo laffo laffo...
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                              • How do you suggest order be restored? Invite people to tea? 'Death squads' is a dramatic term, and I hope they don't do it, but it isn't your or my country, and it isn't our neighbours being blown up as they que up for jobs.
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