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Originally posted by Ted Striker
We talk about all the torture bad Saddam did and here we are doing the same thing.
We talk about all the torture bad Saddam did and here we are doing the same thing.
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But that's good, because you're the good guys, remember?"I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis -
Yeah, we only torture bad people! They must have deserved it!We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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In Stalin's purges, people who had been previously punished were considered extra suspect, since their previous mauling at the hands of the State presumably had made them more hostile to it.
You could apply something similar here - I mean, anyone who gets tortured by American forces can probably be safely assumed to be against you. Voilà , and you can identify any number of hostiles for subsequent elimination.Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?
It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- ElokComment
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Originally posted by DanS
I think the Iranian people will be a big winner in that scenario in the long run. Najaf's star is rising in the Shiite world, despite being nearly destroyed. Qom's star is falling in the Shiite world. The Iranian government's legitimacy is tied to Qom.
Where do you get this nonsense from?
(don't give up your day job Dan)Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?Comment
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Is anyone in the US actually doing anything about this?
It's become clearer that the Bush adminstration is tending more and more towards fascism. There's a long way to go yet, but the fear-mongering, religious mania, hysteria about liberals, traitors and homosexuals along with the militarism, disdain for facts and tolerance of torture is rather worrying.
The US needs an anti-fascist league. Even the Libertarians are starting to worry big time (you can tell, they've been quoting []The Nation[/i] with approval).
How about the AUAF (Apolyton Union of Anti Fascists)?Only feebs vote.Comment
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I'm seriously contemplating an American Hitler......Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?Comment
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I'll never be as full of myself, that's for sure.Originally posted by Ted Striker
You could never be as good as me, I'm glad we agree on that.
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Ohh, an Agathon-Horse tag team troll! Excellent!(\__/)
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not really - I feel like my world is falling apart - the US debating "torture reform" - what has the world come to?Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?Comment
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YepOriginally posted by Last Conformist
In Stalin's purges, people who had been previously punished were considered extra suspect, since their previous mauling at the hands of the State presumably had made them more hostile to it.
You could apply something similar here - I mean, anyone who gets tortured by American forces can probably be safely assumed to be against you. Voilà , and you can identify any number of hostiles for subsequent elimination.
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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Originally posted by Agathon
Is anyone in the US actually doing anything about this?
It's become clearer that the Bush adminstration is tending more and more towards fascism. There's a long way to go yet, but the fear-mongering, religious mania, hysteria about liberals, traitors and homosexuals along with the militarism, disdain for facts and tolerance of torture is rather worrying.
The US needs an anti-fascist league. Even the Libertarians are starting to worry big time (you can tell, they've been quoting []The Nation[/i] with approval).
How about the AUAF (Apolyton Union of Anti Fascists)?
I'm not sure what to do about it. Any suggestions? (seriously)
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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You would have no reason to be.Originally posted by notyoueither
I'll never be as full of myself, that's for sure. 
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
not really - I feel like my world is falling apart - the US debating "torture reform" - what has the world come to?
That's REALLY all it should boil down to.
But some people still dont' get it.
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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For someone whose stock-in-trade is this sort of stuff, you've been quite wide of the mark in the past. See Afghanistan, f.e. I could scarcely be blamed for doubting your analysis without a clear explanation of why it is so.Where do you get this nonsense from?
(don't give up your day job Dan)I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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They can actually make a educated, experienced, and well informed posts.Originally posted by notyoueither
Ohh, an Agathon-Horse tag team troll! Excellent!
You should try it sometime.
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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