Over 50% of Germans equate IDF with Nazi army

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by notyoueither
But since you insist...

'They were better armed'

Oh? Exactly how many tanks did they have? How many aircraft? Who was arming them, and with what?

I don't believe that had any tanks, but they did have five B-17s, which they used to bomb Cairo once, btw. They were being armed, by and large, by the Soviet bloc, including masive shipments of arms from Czechoslovakia. Helping out a fellow socialist state and all. They also had a lot of weaponry from their long terrorist war with the Brits.

With the exception of the well-armed Arab League, most of the Arab states were armed with very old weaponry. And they didn't have very much of that. The Syrian tanks, for example, were pretty old. Then again, so was the howitzer Moshe Dyan used to knock one out with. In fact, they didn't even know if it would work.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


I don't believe that had any tanks, but they did have five B-17s, which they used to bomb Cairo once, btw. They were being armed, by and large, by the Soviet bloc, including masive shipments of arms from Czechoslovakia. Helping out a fellow socialist state and all. They also had a lot of weaponry from their long terrorist war with the Brits.

With the exception of the well-armed Arab League, most of the Arab states were armed with very old weaponry. And they didn't have very much of that. The Syrian tanks, for example, were pretty old. Then again, so as the howitzer Moshe Dyan used to knock one out with.

Massive shipments of arms? Since you know they were massive, you must have some specific information about the shipments other than an adjective.

Do tell.

[Kropotkin]

Originally posted by notyoueither Are you a neo Nazi poster child?

No schmuck, I'm not that handsome or even blond.

[RGBVideo]

You're suckin' someones dick. It sure as hell ain't Israeli, but it's a dick none the less.

Grab a clue, sunshine. He's the dickwad who equated Jews and Israel with the Nazis. I would imagine some dead German chicken farmers would be partying in their graves if they read this thead.

btw, isn't that what this thread is about?

More personal attacks, then an attack against a commienazi straw man (hint: he specifically said that he was NOT equating nazis with jews).
then more swearing, another Godwinized attack against opposing poster and a threadjack.



Keep it up, this forum needs more posts like that.

[notyoueither]

Fell free, VJ. You seem well suited to spread the bull**** around.

btw, bull**** is a profanity in what ***** language?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Kropotkin

No schmuck, I'm not that handsome or even blond.

Aww, muffin, but you play the part so well.

[Urban Ranger]

NYE,

Chill out, 'k?

[chequita guevara]

"Large quanties of modern weapons, especially tanks and aircraft from the Soviet bloc, France, and private American sources were illictely imported.(29) . . . Consequently, after a month's truce, the Israeli army was transformed into a major modern fighing force. . . . Israel's fighting force was about twice thatof the combined Arab nations. (30))" From Bayliss Thomas's How Israel Was Won.

29. An entire Czech airfield was used for a shuttle of arms and planes to Israel. Transports delivered dismantled fighter planes, artillery, armored vehicals, guns and ammunition. DUring the truce, Ben-Gurion approved Irgun's purchase of an American LST landing ship, tank vessel (the Altalena) to bring men and weapons from France. When the Irgun and Haganah fought over the weapons, the vessel burned and 82 Jews were killed. Howard Sachar, A History of Israel ...

30. During the truce, Arab forces in Palestine increase from about 25,000 to between 35,000 and 45,000, as compared with the 60,000 to 100,000 for Israel. New York Times, July 8, 10, 11 1948. ...

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by VJ
More personal attacks, then an attack against a commienazi straw man

I think he meant Kropotkin, not me.

[Kropotkin]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Aww, muffin, but you play the part so well.

True, but I don't know if my fraction of jewish blood might cause a problem.

Drake Tungsten: Cash is king, of cource we'll sell them iron ore and steel! If they use it to enslave humanity isn't exacly our fault, is it?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
"Large quanties of modern weapons, especially tanks and aircraft from the Soviet bloc, France, and private American sources were illictely imported.(29) . . . Consequently, after a month's truce, the Israeli army was transformed into a major modern fighing force. . . . Israel's fighting force was about twice thatof the combined Arab nations. (30))" From Bayliss Thomas's How Israel Was Won.

Who is Bayliss Thomas?

When he says that 'after a month's truce, the Israeli army was transformed' could he be referring to the truce that happened after the Israelis had already won the battle of survival, and the help that arrived after they had already survived the initial onslaught?

Still, I'd like to see something else that says Israeli forces have ever been 'twice that of the combined Arab nations.'

The rest I'm gonna have to leave til tomorrow. Or maybe someone else will take it up.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
NYE,

Chill out, 'k?

Who's hot?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Still, I'd like to see something else that says Israeli forces have ever been 'twice that of the combined Arab nations.'

I gave you the cites, as well as a major Israeli historian (Morris). Go look it up. Since we're demolishing myths, I should point out that George Washington never chopped down a cherry tree either.

[Sandman]

I love it how the article suggests that Germans are innately anti-semitic.

[Az]

"Large quanties of modern weapons, especially tanks and aircraft from the Soviet bloc, France, and private American sources were illictely imported.(29) . . . Consequently, after a month's truce, the Israeli army was transformed into a major modern fighing force. . . . Israel's fighting force was about twice thatof the combined Arab nations. (30))" From Bayliss Thomas's How Israel Was Won.

29. An entire Czech airfield was used for a shuttle of arms and planes to Israel. Transports delivered dismantled fighter planes, artillery, armored vehicals, guns and ammunition. DUring the truce, Ben-Gurion approved Irgun's purchase of an American LST landing ship, tank vessel (the Altalena) to bring men and weapons from France. When the Irgun and Haganah fought over the weapons, the vessel burned and 82 Jews were killed. Howard Sachar, A History of Israel ...

30. During the truce, Arab forces in Palestine increase from about 25,000 to between 35,000 and 45,000, as compared with the 60,000 to 100,000 for Israel. New York Times, July 8, 10, 11 1948. ...

Uhh, tanks and aircraft?

I wonder how many tanks and aircraft does this source of yours say Israel had...

Israel didn't have tanks in 48', and I don't remember having B-17s, either. ( the bombing raid in cairo didn't really require B-17s, you know )