True Love Waits (Until Someone with a Clue Teaches Sex Ed)

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Yep.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Seldom? Still happens. And that is enough to say that abortion can cause sterility.

It's also enough to say that pregnancy can cause sterility, whether it goes to term or not. Ben- how can you bring yourself to be so wilfully stupid when you aren't?

[Stefu]

Think about che's 17'th birthday. "I give you the most precious gift of all... the gift of masturbation!"

where our lutherans kid goes to at the age of 14

Orthodox kids too, although ours has a slightly different name. (OMG APARTHEID SEGREGATION!)

[Drake Tungsten]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Depends what you touch 'em with, cowboy.

Sure does. Guess we just do it different (and better) on the Plains...

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Large scale surveys show that groups that use condoms "all the time" still have a pregnancy rate about one-third to one-half that of groups using no birth control.

Please, tell me you're lying...

No, I'm not. Why do you think that the condom had become a largley ignored form of birth control before AIDS appeared? Everyone knew that thery were a lousy, undependable form of birth control. When I went to medical school we were not encouraged to push for the use of condoms. In the time between the invention of the contraceptive pill and the discovery of AIDS most physicians and sex clinics would not have advised their clients to use of condoms for fear of becoming involved in a "wrongful life" lawsuit should the condom fail. Some surveys shwoed condom use to be only slightly better than the "rhytmn" method.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Condom alone?

I'm on almost 7 years with condoms and no problems.

[ajbera]

Is there anything we can do to combat the innacuracies of the abstinence-only education? How many OT posters are high-school students where they teach abstinence-only ed? Can we come up with a one-sheet of factual info, with references and sources, regarding both abstinence and sexual safety & precautions (and risks), that can be easily e-mailed between students or printed out and left in restrooms, etc.? Nothing anti-abstinence or anti-conservative, but neutral, accurate, informative, with links to sources. I'm not anti-conservative, but I loathe misinformation. I just feel there must be something we can do that would be easy to get out to those most at risk.

The assistance and feedback from the medically-oriented OT gang would be most helpful.

Just a thought.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Jaguar

12 year olds absolutely have hormones and attractions. I was one only four years ago. Try more like 9 year olds.

I didn't at age 12.

[Drake Tungsten]

No, I'm not. Why do you think that the condom had become a largley ignored form of birth control before AIDS appeared? Everyone knew that thery were a lousy, undependable form of birth control. When I went to medical school we were not encouraged to push for the use of condoms. In the time between the invention of the contraceptive pill and the discovery of AIDS most physicians and sex clinics would not have advised their clients to use of condoms for fear of becoming involved in a "wrongful life" lawsuit should the condom fail. Some surveys shwoed condom use to be only slightly better than the "rhytmn" method.

Oh, dear god...

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


I'm on almost 7 years with condoms and no problems.

The condom manufacturers came by one night and they used you as the model while you were asleep. Now the rest of us are stuck with french letters that fit us about as well as the underwear we wore when we were 8 would if we tried to wear them today. This explains the lousy track record of condoms in general.

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Dissident


I didn't at age 12.

And man, you make up for it now.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Dissident


I didn't at age 12.

Most 12 year old boys don't yet have the equipment to act out on their fantasies. Most guys old enough to do anything with 12 year old girls understand how deeply in trouble they would be if they were caught helping 12 year old girls act out their fantasies.

[Jon Miller]

I deffinitely could

unfortunately (or fortunately more likely) I didn't have the body or personality that girls liked

but a lot of the 12 year-old girls were with 2+ yearolder guys, who could act out their fantasies

Jon Miller

[MRT144]

i think that a lot of problems with condoms is user error.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi

Seldom? Still happens. And that is enough to say that abortion can cause sterility.

To properly educate someone you need to tell them not only what could happen but also satistically how often it occurs. In other words, sterility almost never happens and you have a better chance of being hit by lightning.