What do you want RIGHT now?

[Ben Kenobi]

Extra gay sounding today Mr. Pekka.

I never took you for a hater, SG.

[Shogun Gunner]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


I never took you for a hater, SG.

I'm not. It's just the sauna & sausage talk that seems to be increasing in frequency.

I find it funny, nothing more.

[Ben Kenobi]

I know that. I'm just joshing.

[Agathon]

Chocolate.

And Ben is lying. What he really wants is hot sweaty jungle love. But then again who doesn't.

The sauna thing does sound a bit gay though, have I missed something..?

[Shogun Gunner]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
I know that. I'm just joshing.

[Pekka]

Right Shogun Gunner, you do realise, that you can't get any older troll than that? Comparing homosexuality and saunas. But you know, the ironic thing is, it really just reflects the ideas you get in your head, while thinking about hte whole idea of being in sauna. While you might just the normal hetero I think you are, it still tells me that you have some issues about sexuality in general. Don't you find it constricting? Why do would you allow yourself to build obstacles in your life that are absolutely unnecessary? We have obstacles enough I think. Don't interpret this as me trying you to convince homosexualism is the best thing to do. I'm just trying to explain, that saunas really have absolutely zero homosexualist context in it.

It's a bodily joy, it makes you feel good outside and inside. It's refreshing and makes you clean. Without negative side effects. I would think that's a great idea. And if you are sure about your sexuality, you shouldn't have any problems sitting next to nude people. They are not there trying to have their ways with you. They are not interested in your body that much, even though you might think you're the superstar.. you know, they just don't care.

So everytime people make remarks about gay stuff in that context, I realise it's just trolling, but I also realise it's kind of sad, because it reflects true feelings and fears you have in your hearts. And I know the complete irrationality of these fears. What, are you afraid you'll turn gay or something? I'd say then your hetero side is not really that strong anyway if you have to be afraid of that. Are you afraid some people try to do gay with you? Well, then you must be really scared individual, being afraid of all men trying to grab you or something.

Ben, I just started watching a movie .. Well, actually mini series. And then I go to sauna myself.. but sure, if you want to talk or anything let me know. I could always use a chat too, but not right now, nip and tuck time!

[Ben Kenobi]

And Ben is lying. What he really wants is hot sweaty jungle love. But then again who doesn't.

First the job...

[Ben Kenobi]

Ben, I just started watching a movie .. Well, actually mini series. And then I go to sauna myself.. but sure, if you want to talk or anything let me know. I could always use a chat too, but not right now, nip and tuck time!

I don't have much to do today. Just a meeting in the evening, and that's all.

[Barinthus]

Originally posted by Pekka
I could show and teach them how to do the proper sauna session. And then we'd both get massaged. By a third person of course.

I just loved how you phrased this!

[Barinthus]

What I want right now?

Go home and sleep.

Enough time to finish my current CSC epic game.

Have everything already sorted, ordered, and packed up. No, cancel the packed up part. Already set up at my new place (yes I'm moving again!?!?!?! ).

News that my temporary job is now permanment and it's mine.

And while this may not meet your criteria, Pekka, but it'd be sure nice if my lotto ticket is the winning ticket for tonight's jackpot.

Then I can fly to Finland and learn about proper sauna. No gear-grabbing here, so no worries.

[Arrian]

A new computer & a copy of Pirates!

-Arrian

[Q Classic]

saunas and bathhouses are not in themselves gay. there are plenty of them in asia.

[Shogun Gunner]

I've been exposed! I must prove my hetero is strong by some gross, immoral act with a women of loose morals -- without my wife finding out. Damn that's macho!

Seriously, it was more the wording in your post more than the actual subject matter. Yes, you are right, it's too easy to troll on that. I've been in saunas a lot in my lifetime (my family emmigrated from Scandinavia two/three generations ago) and it's a bit of a tradition in our family.

Yes, we make gay jokes all the time about the sauna. My Uncle Ed refuses to get into the sauna with shorts on, he wears sweatpants and a sweatshirt. We are more manly then him.

[Q Classic]

I've been exposed! I must prove my hetero is strong by some gross, immoral act with a women of loose morals -- without my wife finding out. Damn that's macho!

That'll prove nothing, Shogun Gunner. After all, you could be overcompensating now that you're been exposed...

In other words, YOU PROVIDE NOTHING!

[Pekka]

I haven't talked about sausages in a long time. Sausages are great after sauna. It's tradition like thing. You can make them in million different ways. So you need an expert like me, to show that. With years of experience and thousands years of knowledge about it, you would agree it should be pretty good, regardless of your backround, yes? Of course.

I don't see what is so gay about my wording in that one. I just don't. Maybe you can point it out? How can you talk like gay in internet forums to begin with? I can't tell who is gay and who is not by their posts. I have a gaydar just like anyone else but jeesh it's not that strong .

Furthermore, I find it worrying you have to mention about your wife. I'm happy for you, I'm sure you guys are perfect and good things will come to you in the future. I hope so too. But, let's not forget, why would a married man need to be talking about that. You have nothing to be worried about. Gay or not, I wouldn't judge you for it. You should know that, and some people say they wouldn't but they still would think differently of them as persons too, because they have surpressed the stigma of gay and think they are normal like the rest of us, but they still think it's a feature in them in a way that's not appreciating the fact but fearing the fact unconsciously. I can say I'm 100% great with my sexuality. It's not something I'm trying to boast with, but do you see me trying to explain that I'm actually straight, when some people troll or what ever about gay, or my perversed implications? No. I don't need to. I don't really care if someone thinks I'm gay. I really don't. The fact is, I am straight, but I don't consider it a feature. It's just the way it is you know.. that's the way I'm built. Different people are built differently. I don't see why I should be one making that point clear, trying to separate other people from other people. What would be the point? Yes I am different from gay people. I don't swing that way. I'm different from people with green eyes, mine are blue. I'm bigger than average person. I'm male and I have the equipment of a male, so I'm not female, they're different from me also..


Basically ... I think you might have sexuality issues... you might want to work them out before it's too rooted inside of you so you won't even notice it.