Dealing with Fundamentalism: Secular alternative, or take back the church?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Verto
I see Sava's troll against Christian places of worship didn't warrant a response.

Don't trolls have to include some element of exxageration?

[Dis]

Originally posted by Sava
just to be safe, we should bomb every church on a Sunday...

I think you are forgetting fridays and saturdays for other religion.

Or do you finally admit you only hate christians.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Dissident


I think you are forgetting fridays and saturdays for other religion.

Or do you finally admit you only hate christians.

nah I hate everyone and their stupid religions... I just felt like making an anti-christian troll... but I ed Verto's suggestion to nuke Mecca. I've long advocated that.

[Verto]

Originally posted by Sava
about what? could you please elaborate?

One only has to take the time to combat religious bigotry if it targets Muslims or Jews.

[Sava]

my feelings aren't necessarily bigotry...

Merriam Webster says a bigot is

: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

I'm tolerant of religion. My mother is an Orthodox Christian, and my dad's side of the family is Lutheran.

My disdain of Islam is no more or less strong than my disdain of Christianity.

Personally, I think religion is dangerous and stupid. It is the belief in superstition and myth. But I don't treat religious people differently than I do atheists. Atheists can be just as stupid as religious people.

[Verto]

Fine, I'll change my statement.

One only has to take the time to combat the proposal of genocide if it targets Muslims or Jews.

[Whaleboy]

God's probably too busy banging chicks to care, I mean what else would you do with omnipotence?

I just think these fundies are badly misguided, and it surely is indicative of something pretty problematic if there are so many naive, ignorant people out there.... in many cases that will manifest itself in literal and furvent interpretations of stuff like the Bible, especially considering that it is some peoples diluded ladder out of a nihilistic black hole, particularly where life is bleak. The solution has to be a strong, critical, secular and rational education .

[Dis]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Sorry, that's scheduled for after turning Utah into a sheet of glass.

hey! I love Utah!

[:) Smiley]

The solution has to be a strong, critical, secular and rational education

That is the long range idea, unfortunately that method in some situations would be like trying to neutralize raw hydrochloric acid with sodium hydroxide.

[Whaleboy]

That's why god gave us tear gas

[Ben Kenobi]

a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

Obstinately devoted to his opinions?

Yep, that's sava.

[Whaleboy]

Isn't that going some way to define faith?

[Ben Kenobi]

God's probably too busy banging chicks to care, I mean what else would you do with omnipotence?

The solution has to be a strong, critical, secular and rational education

Given the lack of imagination that the above shows, I'm not sure why you tout such an education.

Isn't it better to enlighten people rather than dragging them into the gutter?

[Ben Kenobi]

Isn't that going some way to define faith?

Faith is based upon more than mere opinion.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Given the lack of imagination that the above shows, I'm not sure why you tout such an education.

Isn't it better to enlighten people rather than dragging them into the gutter?

I don't see the inconsistency there. You can be a perfectly enlightened person with a mind in the gutter.