The OFFICIAL United States Presidential Election Thread! III

[Drake Tungsten]

Wouldn't it be awesome if the Dems disintegrated after this debacle? Maybe we can bring back the Whigs!

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Kaak
the simple fact is that kerry is a lil b*tch, and always has been. The chances of him admitting a fair defeat are slim to none, even though he lost the popular vote by 3.5 million.

I doubt if Bush were in the opposite situation, he would be doing otherwise. One can say that any candidate owes it to their constituents to ensure the result is 100% right before making any moves.

I still think he's doomed to lose, but I can at least understand why he's taking it slow. I think he's aware of it, too.

[Boris Godunov]

One bright spot for me is that Daschle is out. That ****er deserved to be turned out of his leadership position after 2002. Hell, he deserved it after scraping and kneeling to the Bush Administration in 2001.

Now they need to ditch Terry McAuliffe, the oily little car salesman.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Wouldn't it be awesome if the Dems disintegrated after this debacle? Maybe we can bring back the Whigs!

Ain't gonna happen, their core and leadership are the most Liberal of the lot (liberal being an adjective derived from the root word "lobotomy") and they're just gonna scream about how the Republicans and the Media used a vast conspiracy to scam the election for Bush.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Now they need to ditch Terry McAuliffe, the oily little car salesman.

That would mean dumping the Clintons, his backers.

[Drake Tungsten]

Ain't gonna happen, their core and leadership are the most Liberal of the lot (liberal being an adjective derived from the root word "lobotomy") and they're just gonna scream about how the Republicans and the Media used a vast cospiracy to scam the election for Bush.

The screaming is why I hope they disintegrate...

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Wouldn't it be awesome if the Dems disintegrated after this debacle? Maybe we can bring back the Whigs!

****ing A Whigs rule

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

I figure the best thing would be the Dems keeping their little Liberal niche and the Republicans splitting into the Bull Moose Republican and the Pyscho Nazi Republican Parties.

[Drake Tungsten]

I would sooo register as a Whig. I don't even care what their platform is.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

I would register as a Federalist just for kicks and giggles.

Woo Hoo! The party of George Washington and Alexander Hamilton!

Economists unite!

[Dinner]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
The partisans at http://www.democraticunderground.com/ are going insane.

That place looks like it is nothing more then the spam forum for a bunch of 15 year olds. Tons of spam and very little if any real discusion going on.

[DinoDoc]

I said they were going insane Oerdin.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Kontiki
Personally, I'm a little disappointed but not at all surprised. You'd think this should jolt the Democrats back into some sense of reality. They put up a bad candidate and ran a crap campaign. IMO, this election should have been a slam dunk against Bush. The fact that the Democrats weren't up by 10 points going into yesterday speaks volumes about the failure of the party and Kerry himself.

Not quite. This is not merely a defeat by Kerry. This is also the victory of reactionary ideas.

All reactionary referenda have succeeded. The Republicans continue to control the Congress comfortably.

According to the CNN poll, when I saw it last night, the main issue of 21% of the voters were moral issues, and the primary issue of 17% of the people was to have a strong leader. The economy and Iraq scored less, and issues like education and healthcare scored far less.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by DanielXY


So whats up with these eVoting machines? Can anyone confirm the claims (+5% for bush, if no paper trail, no diffrence if there is)? Or is it indeed some insane conspiracy theory?

I'm a Democrat and a big Kerry supporter but this junk is just an insane conspiracy theory. The big problem here is that some people need to take a class on satistics and learn why an exit poll isn't really all that accurate. The real vote was 5% off of the estimate and I have no idea why this surprises anyone.

[Drake Tungsten]

Not quite. This is not merely a defeat by Kerry. This is also the victory of reactionary ideas.

Huh? Kerry was the reactionary in this election...