Asking all English Canadians

[Agathon]

Actually, he realized that the Bloc is unCanadian. How did he do that?

Not liking the Federation can't be unCanadian, since it is the #1 sport of all the provinces other than Ontario.

[Fake Boris]

[Asher]

It is incredibly disrespectful to not give veterans Canadian flags when they ask for it, when all other provinces do...

[Agathon]

It is incredibly disrespectful to not give veterans Canadian flags when they ask for it, when all other provinces do...

Maybe they were rooting for the other side.

[Ben Kenobi]

I agree with Asher.

After all, the folks from Quebec fought conscription measures, it makes sense for them to spit on the folks from the ROC who gave their lives to liberate France.

Absolutely disgraceful.

[Ben Kenobi]

Considering that it is these MPs who prop up the Liberals, I wonder if the Liberals will have anything to say about this.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
I agree with Asher.

After all, the folks from Quebec fought conscription measures, it makes sense for them to spit on the folks from the ROC who gave their lives to liberate France.

Absolutely disgraceful.

Yeah, and does it make sense to fight conscription under the flag of an empire that considers French Canadians sub-subjects meant for being used as cannon fodder?

[Fake Boris]

I find all the fuss around this incredible... some old farts ask for a Canadian flag, and it's supposed to be a scandal because what? you need a maple leaf to commemorate? if you really need one go get one yourself for ****'s sake! Separatist MPs won't hand over flags, yeah, big surprise!

Would I, personally, hand over these flags? Yes. Is it a big deal that they won't? NO.

[Kuciwalker]

I find all the fuss around this incredible...

So do I. Why did the BQ MP make such an issue out of it?

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

I find all the fuss around this incredible...

So do I. Why did the BQ MP make such an issue out of it?

It's common policy for some of them not to hand flags, but as said by the article some will.

It seems like the Anglo press is making a big deal of it, not the BQ.

[pchang]

All the Quebecers who want to leave Canada should just bunch up in one area until they have a supermajority in that area and then just go. The rest of us don't want to deal with it anymore.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
I agree with Asher.

After all, the folks from Quebec fought conscription measures, it makes sense for them to spit on the folks from the ROC who gave their lives to liberate France.

Absolutely disgraceful.

Some folks from Quebec fought conscription, as did some from elsewhere. Many volunteered, and bled and died, right along side people from everywhere else in Canada.

I'm surprised you can't see that flags would be a charged issue in Quebec, after flag stomping incidents, and a recent major corruption scandal focused around Federalists 'waving the flag'.

I think they bushwhacked the guy.

[Standup]

Interesting thread.

As a Scot i've always had an emotional attachment to Independence but if it ever looked like happening i'd probably pause for thought. Devolution has highlighted a lot of the problems an independent Scotland would face.

So i'm curious as to what kind of independence/latitude Quebec has now ? Does it have separate taxation, its own legal system or legislative assembly, education etc or is it more of a cultural difference - one speaks French the other English and so on ?
How practical is an Independent Quebec in financial terms ? The sums don't quite add up for Scotland (not since they stole our oil ) but how would Quebec finance itself ?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Standup
Interesting thread.

As a Scot i've always had an emotional attachment to Independence but if it ever looked like happening i'd probably pause for thought. Devolution has highlighted a lot of the problems an independent Scotland would face.

So i'm curious as to what kind of independence/latitude Quebec has now ? Does it have separate taxation, its own legal system or legislative assembly, education etc or is it more of a cultural difference - one speaks French the other English and so on ?

Canadian provinces have a large degree of autonomy. Provinces have access to a wide variety of means of taxation, including income tax.

All provinces have a legislative assembly, and those legislatures have autonomy over a wide area of responsibilities. Municipalities, education, healthcare delivery, welfare programs, etc are all provincial jurisdictions.

A good example would be municipalities. In Britain, IIUC, the city of London, or Glasgow, would be largely autonomous from all but Parliament. In Canada the largest city, and the smallest village, is entirely a creature of the province(s). For a demonstration of that, a recent government in Ontario forced a reorganisation on the municipalities around Toronto. Ottawa had zero say in the matter, and those municpalities had not much more than that.

In Quebec, there is a law that all children must be educated in French unless at least one of the parents was educated in English in Quebec (or Canada??). This means that the children of immigrants are being educated in French whether the parents want that or not.

The province of Alberta owns all the minerals in Alberta. That means that the proceeds from the sale of the large amounts of oil and gas here belong to the people of Alberta. Quebec has a large base in hydroelectricity. That all belongs to the people of Quebec.

Nova Scotia, on the other hand, does not control the off shore oil and gas directly. The feds maintain control over oceans and waterways. Hense they own the off shore oil and are being forced to share with a province like Newfoundland due to the embarassment of riches and basic fairness.

Another example of provincial power. The government of Quebec runs its own pension system. They opted out of the Canadian one, and instead tax their workers for pensionable earnings on thier own and run their own show. That is their right in Confederation.

How practical is an Independent Quebec in financial terms ? The sums don't quite add up for Scotland (not since they stole our oil ) but how would Quebec finance itself ?

The sums don't quite add up for Quebec either, since they enjoy a large amount of autonomy as it is and they also receive a net transfer of wealth from the federal government (they draw out more than they pay for social programs).

The attractions would be purely emotional. As OBoris said a couple of times. It's there to be done, and he is curious about the challanges involved in making a go of it.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
It's common policy for some of them not to hand flags, but as said by the article some will.

It seems like the Anglo press is making a big deal of it, not the BQ.

Actually, it's definately the BQ. When your constituents ask you to do something as harmless as handing out flags, and you refuse out of some stupid ideological purity or whatever, you're the one making an issue.