Asking all English Canadians

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Also the racism against Amerindians is probably not worse than in other places. Where was the reservation you visited? those near the American borders are notorious for smuggling drugs and weapons, and the mafia there is actually so powerful that provinvial police won't go. This might explain the resentment you've seen.

Well, here's an example: we went through a museum of early Quebec history, and all of the stuff was really slanted towards the "the Indians were barbarians, we're the civilized people" end of the spectrum. It was really surprising, since our textbooks tend to give a pretty frank admission of the genocide we inflicted.

Well, there might be a difference, considering neither the British nor the French, nor later the Canadians, went genocidal as a general rule towards Amerinds, although there was some pretty vicious stuff went on against allies of either side up to the conquest of Quebec.

We did have problems with paternalism though, and it seems you may have seen remenants of that.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Well, here's an example: we went through a museum of early Quebec history, and all of the stuff was really slanted towards the "the Indians were barbarians, we're the civilized people" end of the spectrum. It was really surprising, since our textbooks tend to give a pretty frank admission of the genocide we inflicted.

Oh, then you just happened to fall on a bunch of revisionists, there are some everywhere.

Not to justify the evils done, but it's a fact that the French were not nearly as bad with Amerindians as America was in the 19th century. Not because I think they were nicer people, but that there was so few of them they didn't need to steal their territory anyway.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Oh, then you just happened to fall on a bunch of revisionists, there are some everywhere.

Not to justify the evils done, but it's a fact that the French were not nearly as bad with Amerindians as America was in the 19th century. Not because I think they were nicer people, but that there was so few of them they didn't need to steal their territory anyway.

I hope you see the irony there...

EDIT: not to say you're wrong, it's just an interesting juxtaposition

[Fake Boris]

Not really... I meant that there were few French, not that there were few Amerindians because they had been killed.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris


Oh, then you just happened to fall on a bunch of revisionists, there are some everywhere.

Not to justify the evils done, but it's a fact that the French were not nearly as bad with Amerindians as America was in the 19th century. Not because I think they were nicer people, but that there was so few of them they didn't need to steal their territory anyway.

Actually, I think it was more a policy by both the British and the French of coexistance. The land was huge. There was, and is, room for everyone.

That was certainly the policy carried forward after Confederation when the RCMP (NWMP) established, and kept, treaties with all the plains indians prior to large scale settlement coming West.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Not really... I meant that there were few French, not that there were few Amerindians because they had been killed.

I know, that wasn't my point

[Asher]

Some day Quebec will just have to accept their inferior culture is no match for the Anglophone culture in this country.

They can ***** and moan all they want, but all they're going to get from it is a swift kick in the ass if they keep it up.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


I know, that wasn't my point

Yeah, whatever.

[notyoueither]

Asher, the one man argument for seperatism.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Asher
Some day Quebec will just have to accept their inferior culture is no match for the Anglophone culture in this country.

They can ***** and moan all they want, but all they're going to get from it is a swift kick in the ass if they keep it up.

[Kuciwalker]

A fishing boat?

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
A fishing boat?

It's called "troll fishing".

[Kuciwalker]

Trolls live under bridges, silly

[Asher]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Asher, the one man argument for seperatism.

Honestly, it's always been my dream to have Quebec do their usual *****ing and whining and threatening to separate, expecting to get more money again...then have the Prime Minister go "Okay, you asked for it. Here's your share of the debt, you cannot use Canadian currency, and you will no longer receive any funding from us. Have a nice day."

The panic in Quebec in the ensuing days would set them straight for decades.

[Fake Boris]

Actually, you can't prevent us from using Canadian currency.