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Hey Drachoser, are you going to change your post everytime you make a misstep?
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?Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
Hey Drachoser, are you going to change your post everytime you make a misstep?
-Drachasor"If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack ObamaComment
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Over the months that have happened since, and the general chaos, there has been plenty of time for the explosives to have been moved out piecemeal.Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
You know, to assume to is to make an ass out of u and me.
Let's see, no evidence of looting. No trucks able to carry the explosives away. Surveillance ever since occupation. GAP IN TIME since verification of existence and occupation by coalition. Hmmmm, yep, sirree, it just had to have been snuck out right under our noses. It is so logical!
Again, this whole situations is indicative of incompetence somewhere. Bush, as Commander and Chief, is clearly ultimately responsible for this, doubly so since no has been diciplined in the time since we moved in. What you have said changes none of this.
-Drachasor"If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack ObamaComment
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You added a paragraph after it was posted. Not that it changed your argument really, since it was the same out of breath ranting, but just want to make sure you're not making things disappear without verification.
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Yep, more speculation.Originally posted by Drachasor
Over the months that have happened since, and the general chaos, there has been plenty of time for the explosives to have been moved out piecemeal.
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I suppose you think it's equally likely that the fairies had it away, eh?Comment
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Could be, but there is still no evidence that the explosives were lifted under the control of the coalition.Originally posted by Gibsie
I suppose you think it's equally likely that the fairies had it away, eh?Comment
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http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=enComment
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I want to know how a reporter and a cameraman would be qualified to say whether or not those explosives were there. Were they munitions experts?Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Or how they could say so, without anyone having conducted a search by their own admission."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Why don't people read other's posts?
Ramo already gave us a succinct summary of this "debate"
So there was no search.
Let's summarize:
-The Allawi gov't contradicts the assertion that the explosives were moved before we got there.
-The White House contradicts this assertion.
-A Pentagon source familiar with the situation contradicts this assertion.
-The IAEA confirmed that the explosives were there in January, and confirmed that site was still sealed a week before the war started.
-The "report" about the search was leaked by Drudge, and MSNBC itself didn't actually publish their story until everyone else started to carry it.
-The NBC story (or rather, the second-hand account) doesn't provide any sources, whatsoever.
-And the money shot is, a member of the the NBC crew embedded in the unit confirmed there was no search.If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard ShawComment
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Except for the statements by the Iraqi interim government to the IAEA explaining the disappearence.Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
Could be, but there is still no evidence that the explosives were lifted under the control of the coalition.If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard ShawComment
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Che, the site was listed as a WMD site for the HMX, etc., explosives. I would be surprised if the 101st didn't know that at the time they occupied the site.
Even so, the statement by the IAEA that attributed the cause of the explosives being missing to US neglect is just a bit much if, as it appears, the explosives were not there at the time our troops arrived. What are they, Kerry supporters? They certainly are not honest.http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=enComment
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The second paragraph is based on an assertion contradicted now even by the supposed source, who essentially says he and the troops who got there were not competent to make any such finding. It also, as Ramo pointed out, contradicts the statements of the US and current Iraqi governments on the issue.Originally posted by Ned
Che, the site was listed as a WMD site for the HMX, etc., explosives. I would be surprised if the 101st didn't know that at the time they occupied the site.
Even so, the statement by the IAEA that attributed the cause of the explosives being missing to US neglect is just a bit much if, as it appears, the explosives were not there at the time our troops arrived. What are they, Kerry supporters? They certainly are not honest.If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard ShawComment
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In any case, the 101st weren't there to inspect the site, at best they were there to secure it. There is a big difference. The latter doesn't require them knowing all the details of what they are securing.
-Drachasor"If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack ObamaComment
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