The World Series - St Louis & Boston

[GePap]

Yes, No underdog.

besides, given that St. louis payroll was smaller than Boston's, did that make St. Louis (you remember them, the team you actually played in th WS) the underdog?

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by GePap
Yes, No underdog.

besides, given that St. louis payroll was smaller than Boston's, did that make St. Louis (you remember them, the team you actually played in th WS) the underdog?

Assuming Steiny and Cash-man had half the brains of Henry, Lucchino, Werner and Epstein, 125 mil payroll against 190 mil payroll sure as hell ought to make you the underdog.

And yeah, the Cards proved they were the underdog. Did we really play them? Well, yeah, we played them, but I don't think they really showed up to play us. More like the lamb, in this case. When I saw Ming predict Cards in 6, I laughed. I didn't really think sweep, but I knew after games 6 and 7 of the ALCS (and yeah, I thought we'd win) that the WS was only going to be at Fenway once this year.

A team with a lot of good, young homegrown talent can be competitive with a lower payroll for a short period of time, but you can't retain those guys past their eligibility for free agency - not enough of them to stay competitive over the long haul. To even be competitive in the short term with homegrown talent, you have to have a huge amount invested in scouting and player development, so your total cost of baseball operations still gets up there with the big boys, unless you just want to be the guys who are happy to break .500

[Agathon]

Jeez.... Yankees fans make Man United fans look like paragons of decency and sportsmanship.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I still like the fiction that this team will be the MOST REMEMBERED BASEBALL TEAM EVER!!!!

Top 5 easily. Along with the '27 Yanks, '61 Yanks, and '69 Mets, the '04 Red Sox will acquire the pantheon of most remembered teams and will most likely be #1.

As for sports movies, everyone remembers the '69 Mets as such a great story, but has anyone made a movie about them? Nope. Before 'Miracle' in 2003, had anyone made a movie about the 1980 US Hockey team? No.

The reason no movies had been made with the Red Sox, because they were such a 'cursed' team. The Indians and Angels don't have that history in their relative movies. Neither did the Minnesota Twins (in 'Little Big League'). Maybe the Washington Nationals/Senators did in 'Damn Yankees'. And Rookie of the Year had the Cubs, but there was no mention of them not winning since Peerless Leader, Frank Chance was running the club.

As for GePap's elitism... he is a Yankees fan (sorry Arrian, I know there are good Yankee fans ) .

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Here's to LoA:

thanks man. what a ride. I was on the phone with my buddy in canada in the ninth innings. just wow. it doesnt seem real, the sox standing and celebrating, the 1 hour sportscenter episode devoted solely to the sox. what can i say? its even better than i imagined it to be.

[Imran Siddiqui]

LoA

You must be in heaven .

Oh, and what a year for New England would this be if the Patriots won the Superbowl, the Red Sox won the Series, AND Kerry becomes President . Perhaps it is an omen?

[Lawrence of Arabia]

btw, i dont care if we are just another team. itll be better that way

[Lawrence of Arabia]

total eclipse of the heart

[Lawrence of Arabia]

mannyfest destiny!!!!!!

[Imran Siddiqui]

Btw, I've heard people say this is the biggest thing that has happened to New England since the Revolution... they may be right .

[Lawrence of Arabia]

bannerday

[War4ever]

World Series Champions,

Nuff Said........

[War4ever]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
total eclipse of the heart

will someone make an avatar of this so i can dl it..... it would be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay kewl and i would be in your debt

[Frozzy]

Here you go War4ever... congrats

[War4ever]

Originally posted by Kalius
Here you go War4ever... congrats

Thanks my friend...i am in your debt....its a great day to be alive, only thing i wish, i could have shared this with a few of my mates from this board.....

tis a great thing what has happened....... now its time for the cubbies