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[MrFun]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Fun,



Tell it to GePap who made the generalizations about libs and conservatives. I only spoke for myself (and perhaps if you stretch it fellow conservatives).

Yeah, maybe the same can be said with GePap, but maybe he was just trolling.



Anyway, by EMPHASIZING that because you're conservative that thus, you are optimistic, you were insinuating/implying that optimism is antithetical to liberalism.


And thus, you are PWND!!

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by MrFun


Anyway, by EMPHASIZING that because you're conservative that thus, you are optimistic, you were insinuating/implying that optimism is antithetical to liberalism.

I think you are assuming and you know what YOU say about assuming

Did you know that whenever you assume something about others, you make an *ss out of yourself?

Here's the opening you should have gone for as more appropriately substantiates a claim by me of liberals being pessimistic "Exactly the reason to be optimistic rather than advocating the pessimism required of liberals to encourage revolution, and teh ensuing death and destruction as has been so often the case in human history." and thus pwnage.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Seriously this has been fun and all guys. But gotta run. Toodles.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


I think you are assuming and you know what YOU say about assuming

There is a difference between reading someone's statement, and then making a mistake, from that of assuming something without even attempting to understand what one said.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Dans'd

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Where, ohh raincloud of optimism?

Exactly the reason to be optimistic rather than advocating the pessimism required of liberals to encourage revolution, and teh ensuing death and destruction as has been so often the case in human history.

You agreed on the premise that all liberals or conservatives in the end believe X.

Sorry to PWNZ you

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Beat you to it. And with that I really do have to leave.

[GePap]

OK, so good by PWNZ!

[MrFun]

it's been fun today, GePap and Ogie

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by GePap




You agreed on the premise that all liberals or conservatives in the end believe X.

Sorry to PWNZ you

IN reality both my comments and beleifs go counter to your assumptions. Whilst your assertions about beleifs may hold weight/merit your conclusion that that makes them either respectively pessimistic or optomistic is flawed.

For example, I'm am fully optomisitc in the belief that an individual has the wherewithal to help themselves and will do so because it is in their own selfish nature to do so.

[GePap]

First, you sir are a liar! (You said you were leaving )

Second:

The issue is not self help-the issue is about society as a whole and the ability to change society, not just one individual.

[MrFun]

He lies AND he assumes.



Talk about evil.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by GePap
First, you sir are a liar! (You said you were leaving )

Second:

The issue is not self help-the issue is about society as a whole and the ability to change society, not just one individual.

Ahh but conservative by and large are happy and see no compelling reason for change at least in a drastic sense.

And I'm back just to vex you.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


Ahh but conservative by and large are happy and see no compelling reason for change at least in a drastic sense.

You mean conservatives adhere to the fallacy that because we have always done something a certain way, we should always continue to do so.

[Drachasor]

Both sides are "optimistic" about different things.

That's why (imho) Libertarians and Communists are both idealists and inherently unrealistic. They both think too mcuh of certain aspects of human nature.

-Drachasor