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  • Free French Forces were considered part of the Allies
    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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    • Thank you plato.
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      • Originally posted by PLATO


        half truth is a lie.
        Cheney would know.
        "I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie Allen

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        • Originally posted by Jaguar
          Thank you plato.
          You didn't beat me to it by much!
          "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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          • Did Edwards basically say that his solution to reducing frivolous lawsuits is to let lawyers decide which lawsuits have merit? :LOL:
            'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
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            • Originally posted by Edan


              Cheney would know.
              And seems to be calling Edwards on it regularly.
              "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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              • Yes, he did.
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                • Oh? Not in my history book. They were French resistance helping allies.

                  Now, you'd wonder why no one else, no news station, no one has claimed this way of calculation of the coalition. You'd think, that wow Cheney really came up with something no one else did. Wrong. He didn't. Because this is NOT how you measure the coalition.

                  I could explain you why, but it would take a lot of time, mostly explaining WHY Iraqi security etc are their OWN entity that has tight connection with coalition but is NOT coalition. They have different attributes, they have different everything. But you have made up your mind already, so I don't waste my time own you.
                  In da butt.
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                  • I'm sure that the American and Polish forces are structured very differently too.
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                    • Originally posted by Pekka
                      Oh? Not in my history book. They were French resistance helping allies.

                      Now, you'd wonder why no one else, no news station, no one has claimed this way of calculation of the coalition. You'd think, that wow Cheney really came up with something no one else did. Wrong. He didn't. Because this is NOT how you measure the coalition.

                      I could explain you why, but it would take a lot of time, mostly explaining WHY Iraqi security etc are their OWN entity that has tight connection with coalition but is NOT coalition. They have different attributes, they have different everything. But you have made up your mind already, so I don't waste my time own you.
                      This is not the point. The point is that Edward's was trying to make this the whole point, when it is clearly only part of the truth. Another half truth on Edward's part.
                      "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                      • "putting people behind crime".
                        'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
                        G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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                        • OK OK, since there has been some claims that French resistance WAS the allied, I mean that's the claim, if they are part of allied then they are allied. My claim is, they were helping allied, and were part of the effort, but their own entity (I dont' know what is so difficult understanding this):

                          Wikipedia says:

                          The French Resistance was the resistance movement that fought military occupation of France by Nazi Germany and the resulting Vichy France during World War II after France surrendered in 1940. French Resistance cooperated with Allied secret services (see Special Operations Executive), especially in providing intelligence on the Atlantic Wall and coordinating sabotages and other actions to contribute to the success of Operation Overlord.

                          This clearly says that they were their own entity, and NOT allied per se. Now, go fetch your fishy sources of information and .. **** I dont' even feel like debating this, I think this is so trivial.
                          In da butt.
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                          THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
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                          • Originally posted by The diplomat
                            "putting people behind crime".
                            "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

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                            • Cheney's finding it difficult to keep his cool. Wouldn't it be fun if he slips and uses the f-word?

                              He (Cheney) has landed a number of light punches but it really doesn't matter, he's losing the debate because he comes across like a major a--hole. And Edwards has delivered the most damaging blow so far by bringing up Halliburton, Cheney didn't have an adequate response.
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                              • Originally posted by Pekka
                                OK OK, since there has been some claims that French resistance WAS the allied, I mean that's the claim, if they are part of allied then they are allied. My claim is, they were helping allied, and were part of the effort, but their own entity (I dont' know what is so difficult understanding this):

                                Wikipedia says:

                                The French Resistance was the resistance movement that fought military occupation of France by Nazi Germany and the resulting Vichy France during World War II after France surrendered in 1940. French Resistance cooperated with Allied secret services (see Special Operations Executive), especially in providing intelligence on the Atlantic Wall and coordinating sabotages and other actions to contribute to the success of Operation Overlord.

                                This clearly says that they were their own entity, and NOT allied per se. Now, go fetch your fishy sources of information and .. **** I dont' even feel like debating this, I think this is so trivial.
                                1. It does not clearly say that.
                                2. Wikipedia isn't God.
                                3. Look at the word. Allied forces. As in forces who were allied with each other.
                                "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

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