The War on Poverty: The American Way

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Ok. I'm going to pretend to assume that MtG believes that people only become homeless by fault of their own.

MtG, Japher, and I go camping. MtG and I go for a little hike. I fall off a cliff, but I'm hanging on to a branch. MtG goes back to camp. Japher asks where I am. MtG says "He'll be in shortly. He got hung up."

Is this not murder?

It's not my fault if you're clumsy and then expect me to lean over the edge of the cliff so you can pull me down with you.

[Colon™]

You have a child and you blew 5000$ on gambling...?

You moron.

[Kidlicious]

I'm sensing a lot of hostility in this class warfare thread.

Go figure.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Kidicious
I'm sensing a lot of hostility in this class warfare thread.

Go figure.

Only in the last post before yours.


The rest of us seem to be saying "if you don't like your situation, change it"


And I don't care if someone else has hundreds of millins of dollars that they inherited or whatever. If they happen to use that money to make millions more whikle employing hundreds, all the better.


Kid the reason you get so little sympathy is that many of us have children and go to college, and have worked the dirtiest jobs imaginable--- If you are smart and work hard, you Will get ahead.

I have also noted that the ones that complain the most about how the "system" keeps them down are also the ones unwilling to put in that extra effort.

[Kidlicious]

Some of it I have to just sense, but I already know that it's there.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Some of it I have to just sense, but I already know that it's there.

Much like most of your economic theory-- you have no proof or evidence to back you up-- you just "know"

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
It's not my fault if you're clumsy and then expect me to lean over the edge of the cliff so you can pull me down with you.

Actually I would not expect you to help me. That's my whole point. Although I consider that an act (or maybe inaction) of violence, I would not pull you down with me. That's not to say that I don't know who my enemies are.

[Kontiki]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Ah, so your advice is to quit college. Wow, I wasn't expecting any kind of helpfull advice like that.

No, my advice is to shut up about being a poor opressed soul when you are voluntarily giving up income in favor of paying money out of your pocket.

Although if you're too dense to see that, maybe you should quit college.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Kontiki


No, my advice is to shut up about being a poor opressed soul when you are voluntarily giving up income in favor of paying money out of your pocket.

Although if you're too dense to see that, maybe you should quit college.

Quiting college will increase my income? Wow, I should have quit a long time ago.

Hey, you don't know me, but you have judged me. Maybe you should ask yourself why?

[Kontiki]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Quiting college will increase my income? Wow, I should have quit a long time ago?

Hey, you don't know me, but you have judged me. Maybe you should ask yourself why?

Quitting college and getting another job will increase your income. Quitting college and standing in the corner crying about not having enough money won't. It's your choice which one you want to do.

And I know exacty why I've judged you. You take absolutely no personal responsibility for your lack of money. You have choices but you choose to make less money than you could because you want to go to college. That's fine - many people do that - hell, I sure did. But you also choose to complain about a situation of your own making, and that's what's pathetic.

[Kidlicious]

See now this is the reason I'm a communist. I like to talk about economics and other things, but this is really what gets me. People think that they are superior to people who are not as economically well off as them. To me, that is what has to go. You can never rid society of that prejudice in a capitalist system because it's the justification. It's the 800 pound fat lady on your couch that you want to pretend is a giant couch cushion.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Kontiki
And I know exacty why I've judged you. You take absolutely no personal responsibility for your lack of money.

It's not my responsibility. I've done everything possible to get out of poverty. I've worked, saved, trained and kissed a lot of ass.

You've only assumed that I'm inferior to you.

[Pekka]

I believe I should help everytime I can and it's not too much to ask from me. Then again, I expect to get favours in return. I'm like the mob. One day you ask me if I can do your homework, crunch some numbers for your math course.. or you might ask me to write your essay. Yes.. I'm glad to be of help.. but the day might come when I ask for your favour. So you must be ready to kill for me!

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Typical example of class warfare. It's base is the prejudice that poor people are that way by fault of their own. That's the justification of it, but you really know that poor people don't have the same options. Please tell me that you can't be so dumb as to think otherwise. I know you aren't.

You're on the internet a non-essential expenditure in and of itself. If you really are "close to being homeless" as you claim, why do you still have a connection?

[Kontiki]

It has nothing to do with being better off economically and everything to do with having some personal ambition and making things happen for yourself. I'm only economically better off than you because I worked my ass off and made some big sacrifices along the way. I'm being rewarded for that now, but I didn't complain about the system screwing me over when I voluntarily gave up all of my income and went into debt so that I could get my MBA. And I didn't get into a good MBA program without working hard in undergrad and then busting my ass, going far over and above what I was being paid to do at my job after graduation.