Turkey tries everything to stay out of the EU

[Q Classic]

turkey is in asia. therefore, it should not be a part of the european union.

[Az]

2.5? we get the same from the jewish population here!

[Combat Ingrid]

Az: isn't most of that coming from the ultra-religious nutcases who try to outbreed the arabs?

[VetLegion]

Combat Ingrid, CIA world factbook (I know, I know) says fertility is even lower than your figure (1.98 children per woman) but also gives a population growth rate of 1.13%.

[Az]

well, you see you're mixing two distinct populations, the ultra -religious and the religious settlers.

Muslims have it at somewhere around 4.1
Christians have it at ~2.2
Druze at ~2.4
and the rest ( which is categorized as generic 'jews' but also includes "non jew" Russians, who immigrated with the families)

The jews have, however, a couple of sub categories, that I know no research of:
-Secular ( people like me). I imagine our numbers to be abover replacement numbers, but only slightly so ( PERFECT )
- Religious Settlers ( kiddie bonanza!)
- Ultra-Orthodox: (read above)

But since the relative numbers of the 2 lower groups in the "jews" population always rise ( sigh), that means that after a minimum some time ahead, the jewish reproduction rates will start to rise!

So, basically, normal people don't breed here, only nutcases, and they will elect future governments.

I told you we were a perfectly normal country.

[Combat Ingrid]

[Al B. Sure!]

i never understood why the hell adultery isn't a crime in america? Can you at least file a suit against a spouse who committed adultery? I don't think you can even do that in America.

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by Azazel
So, basically, normal people don't breed here, only nutcases, and they will elect future governments.

I told you we were a perfectly normal country.

However, isn't this in the best pragmatic interest of the Jewish state, and even encouraged by the state?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Albert Speer
Can you at least file a suit against a spouse who committed adultery? I don't think you can even do that in America.

We call it divorce and it ends up being very expensive for the cheater.

[Solomwi]

Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
In my opinion, Turkey has the same chance of becoming a full EU member within 10 years as Cuba has the chance of becoming a full US state within the same time.

So you've seen Pres. Bush's Cuban Statehood Plan, I take it. It's going to win him Florida, and all it requires is his re-election and Fidel's death.

[Combat Ingrid]

Originally posted by VetLegion
Combat Ingrid, CIA world factbook (I know, I know) says fertility is even lower than your figure (1.98 children per woman) but also gives a population growth rate of 1.13%.

Found this:

Population Momentum: The tendency for population growth to continue beyond the time that replacement-level fertility has been achieved because of the relatively high concentration of people in the childbearing years. (Also see momentum factors and decreasing population momentum.)

http://www.ecofuture.org/pop/terms.html

[Q Classic]

We call it divorce and it ends up being very expensive for the cheater.

stop bringing facts into the argument.

[Al B. Sure!]

We call it divorce and it ends up being very expensive for the cheater.

alright so adultery is considered in divorce cases... i was under the impression it wasn't what with that whole no-fault divorce business... wait a second...

[Az]

However, isn't this in the best pragmatic interest of the Jewish state, and even encouraged by the state?

Sure, having kids is encouraged. Sadly, some people are more encouraged than others.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Albert Speer


alright so adultery is considered in divorce cases... i was under the impression it wasn't what with that whole no-fault divorce business... wait a second...

depends on the state, IIUC.

Remember Clinton and his argument about what "sex" meant. He wasnt pulling that out of his hat - theres actually a body of law about what sex is, related to divorce cases, IIUC.