Turkey tries everything to stay out of the EU

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by Solomwi


So you've seen Pres. Bush's Cuban Statehood Plan, I take it. It's going to win him Florida, and all it requires is his re-election and Fidel's death.

Puerto Rico should be a full US state long before Cuba. And I don't see that happening soon, do you?

[Winston]

Well, I don't support subsidizing child birth to begin with, never have, but it's my opinion that if you do have it, you don't go snooping into the religious or other beliefs of the people who benefit. The only criteria that should matter, if you decide to apply it, is the income level of recipients, in other words whether they're needy or not.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
We call it divorce and it ends up being very expensive for the cheater.

It's cheaper to keep her!

[Chemical Ollie]

By the way, why is US so obsessed by getting Turkey into EU? That is a matter of EU and no one else!

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by St Leo

Originally posted by Q Cubed
turkey is in asia. therefore, it should not be a part of the european union.

Military is stupid. Therefore, it should not have an Intelligence department.

Are you making fun of me?

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
By the way, why is US so obsessed by getting Turkey into EU? That is a matter of EU and no one else!

1. theyre an ally in the WOT, a state that can serve as a model to the Muslim world, and EU entrance would help
2. It shows that the Euros who are so snooty about the backwards US, are discriminating against a country cause its moslem. (see US gloating about French Headscarf law)

[Az]

Well, I don't support subsidizing child birth to begin with, never have, but it's my opinion that if you do have it, you don't go snooping into the religious or other beliefs of the people who benefit. The only criteria that should matter, if you decide to apply it, is the income level of recipients, in other words whether they're needy or not.

Doesn't how many children they already have come into play? After all, there is a reason for this policy, and that is to have a healthy growth rate.

[Winston]

That's not really for me to answer, since as I've stated, I don't support this kind of subsidy. I believe people are capable of reproducing without economic incentive, and I tend to hold up the last 2 million years of history as evidence.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


1. theyre an ally in the WOT, a state that can serve as a model to the Muslim world, and EU entrance would help
2. It shows that the Euros who are so snooty about the backwards US, are discriminating against a country cause its moslem. (see US gloating about French Headscarf law)

1) Name a country in Europe that is not (not that Turkey is in Europe, but anyway)

2) There is a large number of things to fix in Turkey. Being Muslim is not really the problem. Calling the French laws "headscarf ban" is a very biased way to interpret the situation. France is a secular nation, and bans ALL religious symbols in public schools, including crucifixes, David Stars and head scarfs. Hey, even Swedish schools ban head scarfs if they cover the face, as the teacher needs to recognize and emotionally interact with their students. It's common sense.

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by lord of the mark

winston - if somebody said we need to subsidize child birth in Denmark, to insure that there are enough farmworkers to raise the pigs and milk the cows, and it turned out that the only people taking advantage of the subsidies were Vegans who refuse to work with pigs and cows, could that be considered a reason to not have the subsidy? Thats more or less the situation in Israel, where neither arabs (excluding the Druze and the Beduin) nor Ultraorthdox Jews, serve in the army.

I believe Denmark (Belgium, France, etc...) already have a similar situation. They institued fat children subsidy programs to sponsor increasing the number of Danes (Belgians, French...), but it comes out the biggest beneficiaries of those programs are immigrants with large families

[Imran Siddiqui]

even Swedish schools ban head scarfs if they cover the face

These head scarfs don't come close to covering the face. They just cover the hair.

And France's ban is dumb even more so since it bans Yarmulkes and crucifixes.

[Az]

Banning Yarmulkes.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Well you are just a little Stalinist, aren't you?

[Az]

Well you are just a little Stalinist, aren't you?

You wouldn't laugh if you were forced to wear one through the first 6 years of school.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I never said Israel wasn't Fascist either .