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  • #31
    Originally posted by Ted Striker
    Here is my timeline:

    1) Alright so Bush seemed... bla bla
    All very good points .

    Allow me to add his pushing for a gay marriage banning constitutional amendment, the patriot act, and all that faith based initiative crap he was touting around. Bush also happens to be the first president ever where I continually here "God is in the Whitehouse." WTF? That kind of blind support makes me ill, aside from the obvious separation of church/state problem thing.

    Kerry seems to be a pretty weak candidate, but given the alternative, it's completely irresponsible not to vote for him.

    As for McCain, he strikes me as one of the few good Republicans left. I would vote for him in a heartbeat.
    "Luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." - Chris Cornell, "Mindriot"

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    • #32
      Originally posted by BustaMike
      Kerry seems to be a pretty weak candidate, but given the alternative, it's completely irresponsible not to vote for him.
      Really? You are so full of it.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #33
        Originally posted by The Mad Monk
        The fact is, Kerry is under a little pressure, and he is not handling it well.

        What's going to happen if the **** really hits the fan?
        I personally haven't noticed it, but that's me.

        Perhaps you are more observant of his personality. I will take a closer look.

        The thing though about Bush, is everytime he's in an interview, or even making a speech, he says his point, pauses, and then says a sentence or two in this defensive way where he is trying to sell what he just said, like he doesn't even believe what he is reading himself!
        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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        • #34
          He's never been the best public speaker.

          Check this out:

          http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/Vote2004/bush_campaign_poll_040909.html


          Bush ahead 53 to 43, but it goes into a helluva lotta detail.
          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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          • #35
            Man!

            How does Bush win in the category, "Relations with Other Countries."

            He is the worst one I've ever seen!!!

            I miss Reagan.
            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Giancarlo
              Really? You are so full of it.
              I'll take that remark as I do all of your posts, with a grain of salt.
              "Luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." - Chris Cornell, "Mindriot"

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              • #37
                McCain would be 72 in 2008 and he's already had cancer once. Though he strikes me as a fit man for his age, if he goes for 2008, you'd really have to have a good look at who his VP would be.

                Giuliani would be 64, which'd be alright, but he's got an awful lot of skeletons.

                Rice, aside from being black and woman and thus unlikely to get the support from the Republican core, will by then be utterly stained by the intelligence failures leading up to the Iraq War (which will still be rumbling on).

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                • #38
                  Does anyone else feel that McCain was blackmailed to drop out of the 2000 running? His campaign for the nomination was running strong, and he appeals to democrats as well as repubs. Then suddenly he just dropped out. His behavior since then seems to indicate that he's lost his drive (maybe from cancer). Bush treated him like **** over campaign finance reform. Even now his support of Bush seems forced and reluctant.
                  “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.â€
                  "Capitalism ho!"

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                  • #39
                    edwards/obama 2012

                    obama/hillary 2020
                    meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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                    • #40
                      I refuse to vote in a poll where I'm associated with the eurocoms.

                      Bush wins in 04. Then we get McCain v Clinton in 08; the nutcase v the frigid *****.
                      We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                      If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                      Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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                      • #41
                        Y'all are forgetting Jeb.
                        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Ted Striker
                          Guiliani seems to have been a solid leader
                          Only as a tin pot dictator sort-9/11 saved his political ass, cause he was on the skids here in NYC before it. He is good under pressure from a chatastrophic event- but being able to pass legislation? Not liekly.
                          If you don't like reality, change it! me
                          "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                          "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                          "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by The Mad Monk
                            The fact is, Kerry is under a little pressure, and he is not handling it well.

                            What's going to happen if the **** really hits the fan?
                            Ask the guy who lost to him in 1996 how Good Kerry can be under pressure- or look at his performance in Iowa.
                            If you don't like reality, change it! me
                            "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                            "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                            "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                              Y'all are forgetting Jeb.
                              Because he never will be prez, not with savings and loans under his wing.
                              If you don't like reality, change it! me
                              "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                              "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                              "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by GePap


                                Because he never will be prez, not with savings and loans under his wing.
                                It was Neal who was up to his eyeballs in S&L sleaze, not Jeb.

                                Boy, those Bushes can really turn 'em out, can't they?
                                "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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