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  • #331
    Originally posted by Vince278

    *Boldface above is mine.

    Shocking reports just out of Russia. Regular army fleeing the scene? No coordinated leadership? Spetsnaz borrowing ammo from the locals? Largest single loss of Spetsnaz troops? It boggles the mind. I don't know what to say.
    Saw this yesterday. I thought about posting it but I didn't want to be called a terrorist supporter.
    Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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    • #332
      Originally posted by Sprayber
      Saw this yesterday. I thought about posting it but I didn't want to be called a terrorist supporter.
      I thought of that as well but I believe by bringing it out the Russians can learn from this and improve how they do things as we have done.
      "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
      "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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      • #333
        Apparently the school attack has caused a rift between the "rebel" leaders in Chechnya
        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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        • #334
          Originally posted by Vince278
          I thought of that as well but I believe by bringing it out the Russians can learn from this and improve how they do things as we have done.
          There are reports now that the Russians are considering a color coded system, a Homeland Security department, and other post-9/11 reforms. I don't mind them benefiting from our experience as long as they learn from our mistakes and don't repeat them.
          "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
          "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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          2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)

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          • #335
            Originally posted by Ted Striker
            Apparently the school attack has caused a rift between the "rebel" leaders in Chechnya
            Why do you say that?
            "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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            • #336
              Just read some news reports. Not saying they are accurate. Sorry don't have a link.
              We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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              • #337
                Originally posted by Vince278


                Perhaps it was just a gossip (about one of the terrorists who finished this school). I found this on one of the web sites, so I can't be really sure about this.

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                • #338
                  Originally posted by Vince278

                  *Boldface above is mine.

                  Shocking reports just out of Russia. Regular army fleeing the scene? No coordinated leadership? Spetsnaz borrowing ammo from the locals? Largest single loss of Spetsnaz troops? It boggles the mind. I don't know what to say.
                  The largest single loss of Spetsnaz troops- is correct, they never lost so many officers in a single operation, even when they stormed the palace of Amin in Afghanistan in 1979, iirc. In fact I beileve that 12 KIA in this operation is comparable to number of all their previous losses during entire their history (untill 1991, Alfa lost only 2 or 3 of their officers KIA, iirc). That because they often simply couldn't return fire, since terrorists were hididng anmong the kids and many paid with their own lives to save the children.
                  About the rest, you have to take into account that people who says this lost their loved ones and are very angry about that. They complain that there was no storm and as result so many died. In 2002, people who lost their loved ones in theater complained that there was storm and as result so many died. The part about Spetsnaz borrowing ammo from the locals is pure BS. From what I saw, Spetsnaz use very special weapons (actually, I was unable to indetify their rifles, but certanly they are not just simple AK), where the hell locals could find ammo for such rifles, they are even not allowed to have AK's bullets.
                  Regular army fleeing the scene? Don't know, I didn't see this, but I wasn't there, what I saw is that soldiers were carry the children away, but I indeed know that spetsnaz arrived 30 minutes after explosions, becuase they were in different part of the city practicing the storm in a building of similar type. Despite that leadership were saying that there will be no storm, spetsnaz have different tasks. Negotiators should negotiate, spetsnaz should prepare the rescue operation, so they found the similar building and start to prepare the rescue operation, just how they always do. It's another proof that it wasn't a planned storm and explosions were absolutely unexpected.
                  No leadership? I don't know. From what I know the head of FSB of North Ossetia was in charge of operation.

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                  • #339
                    The bravery of the Spetsnaz in this case still cannot be denied.
                    "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
                    "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
                    2004 Presidential Candidate
                    2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)

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                    • #340
                      Has there been a final count of the fatalities yet?
                      "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                      • #341
                        For Sept. 13 it's 338 people, among them 174 children. This number includes over 90 unidetified bodies (the identification requires more time for DNA analysis). Over 500 were injured, over 400 still in hospitals. 100-200 considering missed.
                        Doc, the boy from video tape survived, I've made a post about this in Chechen dilema thread.

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