Bush bashes Tory leader!

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
What are the Tories going to do foreign policy-wise if they gain power at the expense of gaining the ire of the US administration?

Something less detrimental to Britain's self interests than tying the Union Jack to the sinking ship of American foreign policy?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

you will be guaranteed of Liberal/Labour governments in these countries for the next decade or so.

And after Blair leaves, the next Labor head will probably be less pro-Bush, seeing as how Blair needed Conservative votes to get Britain to go to Iraq (of course that was before the whole WMD doesn't exist thing came out).

The point remains that being pro-Bush and pro-Iraq is a sure path to the scrap heap for Conservative electoral prospects in Canada (and, I suspect, in Britain).

[Drake Tungsten]

Something less detrimental to Britain's self interests than tying the Union Jack to the sinking ship of American foreign policy?

British firms will be making a hell of a lot more money in Iraq than French or Canadian ones...

[KrazyHorse]

British firms will be making a hell of a lot more money in Iraq than French or Canadian ones...

Strike one. Go read the amended procurement protocols.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Should Conservative parties from Canada or Britain not distance themselves from the naked emperor in the sands of Iraq, you will be guaranteed of Liberal/Labour governments in these countries for the next decade or so.

Whether Conservatives are stupid enough to go along with Bush in everything that has gone on is a litmus test for whether they should be given a sniff of power.

I agree to a certain extent (on the attitude of the electorate in Canada and the UK), but I disagree that the Conservatives are going to get a sniff at power because of this, in the UK at least. I don't see Howard becoming PM anytime soon. If he does become PM because of this, then more power to him. If he doesn't, however, the Tories are going to have his head soon enough for destroying relations with the Republicans for no discernable gain.

This issue doesn't get them power. It can deny them power. There is a big difference.

[KrazyHorse]

Nice try at deflection, however.

I remember when the UK had an independent foreign policy and when others listened to them with respect instead of viewing them as merely a mouthpiece for American foreign policy idiocy....

[Drake Tungsten]

This issue doesn't get them power. It can deny them power. There is a big difference.

If that's all you're saying, then I agree with you. Seems like a high price to pay for just a shot at power, but then again these are politicians we're talking about. Not exactly concerned with the long-term.

[Drake Tungsten]

I remember when the UK had an independent foreign policy and when others listened to them with respect instead of viewing them as merely a mouthpiece for American foreign policy idiocy....

And I look forward to the day when Canada may develop a foreign policy.

[notyoueither]

That's why Bush's reaction (Rove's) is strange. Don't those guys have a clue how politics work?

[KrazyHorse]

And I look forward to the day when Canada may develop a foreign policy

The man in my avatar mocks your ignorance.

[notyoueither]

It's not as if a Conservative government in Britain is going to pull out of NATO and go Soviet.

If Blair is unelectable because of Iraq, there is nothing the Conservatives could do to help you. If they tried, you might wake up to find a very unwelcome development. A more radical development, and one that would be a whole ****load less pro American than anything you've ever dreamt of from London.

[Drake Tungsten]

That's why Bush's reaction (Rove's) is strange. Don't those guys have a clue how politics work?

I'm sure they know why Howard is doing this. I just don't think they care. The War on Terror is their sacred cow and this is a message to Howard and others not to **** with them on this.

If Blair is unelectable because of Iraq, there is nothing the Conservatives could do to help you. If they tried, you might wake up to find a very unwelcome development. A more radical development, and one that would be a whole ****load less pro American than anything you've ever dreamt of from London.

True, but this scenario depends on Blair being unelectable. Rove must not think he is and the man knows his stuff.

The man in my avatar mocks your ignorance.

Can he beat back the Danish menace?

[KrazyHorse]

We just *****-slapped the Danes on fisheries issues.

Why would we fear a bunch of drunken pornmongers?

[KrazyHorse]

We also send corrupt ex-bureaucrats to be the ambassador to Denmark because we don't give a flying **** what those washed-up Norsemen think.

[KrazyHorse]

*insert pictrure of maple leaf bending Denmark over a stool and giving it the rogering of a lifetime