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    Bush has declared Tory leader Howard "personna no grata" because he has declared war on Blair over Iraq.

    I wonder if this will cost Howard his job?

    "TORY leader Michael Howard has been barred from the White House and told he will never meet President George Bush, it emerged last night.

    The bombshell ban was slapped on Mr Howard after he called for Tony Blair to quit over the Iraq War.

    And it was reinforced last month when he said he would have vetoed military action if he had known the full facts about Iraq’s WMD arsenal.

    Last night, a spokesman for Mr Howard did not even try to deny the Tory leader had been banned from meeting the President.

    He said: “I don’t want to comment on that.”

    The wrath of the President was transmitted to Mr Howard’s office in a furious phone call from White House political chief Karl Rove in February.

    It followed Mr Howard’s call for Mr Blair to step down as PM.

    What particularly upset the White House was Mr Howard’s comment: “If I were Prime Minister I would seriously be considering my position.”

    They were also angered when the Tory leader accused the PM of “serious dereliction of duty”.

    Mr Rove, who speaks with the President’s full authority, said: “You can forget about meeting the President full stop. Don’t bother coming, you are not meeting him.”

    The conversation was relayed to Mr Howard who was unmoved.

    Far from backing down, a defiant Mr Howard stepped up his attack over the so-called “dodgy dossier” and the 45-minute warning of attack by Iraqi WMD.

    Referring to Tory support for the Commons vote which led to war, he said: “If I knew then what I know now, I could not have voted for the resolution.”

    His comment to the Sunday Times was widely seen as an unforced error.

    But it now emerges that Mr Howard was accurately reflecting his criticism not just of Mr Blair but of Mr Bush as well.

    His stand shook top Tories, including party chairman Liam Fox who is flying to New York in a bid to patch up the rift at the Republican convention.

    And it has deeply damaged the decades-long alliance between the Republicans and the Conservative Party.

    Senior US Right-wingers blame Mr Howard for undermining the coalition in Iraq and say they are privately rooting for a Labour victory in the next election.

    A Tory source said: “They see Tony Blair as a true ally against terror and the Tories as a bunch of w*****s.”

    The stand-off is particularly surprising in view of Mr Howard’s long standing admiration for America.

    He set up the Atlantic Partnership, a think-tank which welcomes regular visits from Republican figures.

    Senior Tories are amazed that the White House fury has remained a secret for so long.

    One said: “I am astonished it hasn’t come out before.”

    But Mr Howard’s spokesman insisted he had not been barred from the Republican Convention.

    He added: “He never intended to attend the convention.”

    The revelations could not have come at a worse time for the Tories.

    A new poll showed them still scoring only 34 per cent, the same as Labour, with little prospect of a breakthrough."

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    Expect the Tories to do well in the polls now.
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    • #3
      Free speech in action
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      • #4
        Originally posted by DinoDoc
        Expect the Tories to do well in the polls now.
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        • #5
          I saw this on the news earlier and laughed

          Who thought we'd see the day Labour would be close to the whitehouse and the Tories shut out after the 80s?

          And who seriously expected Howard to get elected anyway?

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          • #6
            This should ingratiate the European right with Bush.
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            • #7
              All this shows is that bashing a leader over Iraq is pure politics.

              It's also pure bull****.
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              • #8
                Howard is impressing me more every day

                I like the tories, as long as they stick to intellectualised libertarianism and not populist social conservatism, I'm happy. Dont think the white house has done much for itself though...
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ned
                  All this shows is that bashing a leader over Iraq is pure politics.

                  It's also pure bull****.
                  i dont know if its pure bull****. there are legitimate reasons to not support the whole iraq debacle.
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                  • #10
                    Rove is a ***** .

                    Not meeting someone because they express a contrary view? What happens if, say, the impossible happens and Howard becomes PM, what then? And having Republicans back the Labor Party is hilarious because more of them are pissed at Blair over the Iraq war than the Conservatives are.
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                    • #11
                      Rove is a ***** .


                      What's the blanked out word? "Genius" would be the correct adjective, but it has six letters. Did you spell it wrong?
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                      • #12
                        The proper word is derivative slang for penis. What an utterly idiotic move by Rove.
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                        • #13
                          There's nothing idiotic about this.
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                          • #14
                            Then you'd be an idiot for thinking that .

                            It just shows that while Rove may run how to run a campaign, he obviously has no clue how to run a foriegn policy.

                            Pissing off party leaders simply because Rove's pettiness is idiotic any way you look at it.
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #15
                              He's not running a foreign policy. He's delivering punishment to those who **** with our foreign policy.
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