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  • Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp


    Serious question- do you actually like women? I know you want to bump uglies with them, but do you actually like them?
    what gives you that impression that I don't like women. I just said some people say that. I don't say that.

    And how do you get the impression that I hate women by citing examples of women manipulationg men? Men manipulate women just as much if not more. It's just the nature of humans I suppose. But this does not indicate any kind of hatred.

    If I hate anyone, it's myself. but I love women. I hate myself for nor being more masculine and attractive to women.
    Last edited by Dis; August 30, 2004, 20:48.

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      • You dont want love, you want sex. Get honest about it, get real about it, and you'll get it. Keep searching for "love first" and you'll have a hard time.

        A lot of people do wait until marriage..... and they get married at 19 or 20.
        Not all.

        I know a fair number of people who are waiting, and are older than me, 24, 25.

        Of course, I'm going on what they have told me, which may or may not be correct.

        And some of my friends are considering to be either priests or nuns, so it's a little different than most.

        First of all, there is nothing wrong with waiting to get married. By waiting you avoid many of the problems associated with promiscuity.

        Secondly, when you find that person, then you don't have a past to dredge up and discuss. Sure you might be inexperienced, but an inexperienced person also does not have bad habits.

        So even if you do want sex, there is no reason to look for sex outside of marriage.
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        • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
          First of all, there is nothing wrong with waiting to get married. By waiting you avoid many of the problems associated with promiscuity.
          Wait too long and your sanity may be comprimised.

          Secondly, when you find that person, then you don't have a past to dredge up and discuss. Sure you might be inexperienced, but an inexperienced person also does not have bad habits.
          They might, and you might not.... then what?

          So even if you do want sex, there is no reason to look for sex outside of marriage.
          No reason not to. Whats the difference between a monogomaus 3.5 year relationship (like I am in), and a 6 month marriage (like my GF's friend's lasted)?

          A marriage certificate and divorce papers.
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            • Originally posted by Firelad
              Just a little thing about something that someone said - pulling out DOES help, and my experience proves it. A month of doing it several times a day with a particular girl, no contraceptives at all, and nothing. Yes, I know it's horribly stupid, but I was horny

              Pulling out may help the odds a little but its still an idiotic method of birth control. Fertile people going all out and TRYING to conceive can easily go a few months before they are successful. Your one month proves nothing other than you were lucky for a month
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                  • Wait too long and your sanity may be comprimised.
                    And you know this from experience?

                    They might, and you might not.... then what?
                    Take it as it comes. I'm willing to marry someone who isn't a virgin, although I would prefer a virgin.

                    No reason not to. Whats the difference between a monogomaus 3.5 year relationship (like I am in), and a 6 month marriage (like my GF's friend's lasted)?
                    From your standpoint, you've got the milk without buying the cow. From her standpoint, she has no security.
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                    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi

                      From your standpoint, you've got the milk without buying the cow. From her standpoint, she has no security.
                      That seems to be a fundamentally sexist way to look at things. They are both getting the same "milk" and they both have the same security or lack thereof.

                      BK-- while I can respect your choice in this matter, its YOUR choice. and dude . .. . marriage doesn't really give additional security; it just requires additional paperwork for one party to stomp on the heart of another and leave them.
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                      • BK-- while I can respect your choice in this matter, its YOUR choice. and dude . .. . marriage doesn't really give additional security; it just requires additional paperwork for one party to stomp on the heart of another and leave them.
                        That additional paperwork is a promise to each other that must first be broken in order to become divorced. Just the commitment made provides more security for both of you, even given the attitude that marriage is nothing more than a piece of paper.

                        That seems to be a fundamentally sexist way to look at things. They are both getting the same "milk" and they both have the same security or lack thereof.
                        So? Men and women are not exactly the same. For her, it is a far more precarious situation than it is for you.
                        Last edited by Ben Kenobi; August 31, 2004, 15:38.
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                        • Originally posted by Dissident


                          what gives you that impression that I don't like women. I just said some people say that. I don't say that.

                          And how do you get the impression that I hate women by citing examples of women manipulationg men? Men manipulate women just as much if not more. It's just the nature of humans I suppose. But this does not indicate any kind of hatred.

                          If I hate anyone, it's myself. but I love women. I hate myself for nor being more masculine and attractive to women.
                          I never suggested that you hate women, but there's a lot of stereotyping there. Could negative views on women be holding you back?
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                          • Don't break it with silly thoughts

                            Both of you are happy and neither one of you believe that theory that you should be with a bunch of people before settling down. You just want to THINK that you should follow the theory so that you are "doing it right."

                            Follow your heart, it is always right. To hell with "popular wisdom.
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                            • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


                              For her, it is a far more precarious situation than it is for you.
                              Um, why?
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                              • Well, if she gets pregnant, it's easier for you to leave without a commitment.
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