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  • #121
    Originally posted by Solver
    Americans could share some experience, since they can't give Russians brains. Their handling of many situations (like the Oct 2002 hostage crisis) was horrible.
    you talking about that opera house that was taken over?

    I thought they handled it well. Go in there and kick some ass **** this negotiation ****. you don't negotiate with terrorists. you kill them.

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    • #122
      Exactly.

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      • #123
        Originally posted by Vince278


        Sorry, the Russians check there too...
        Hmmm... how could you know? Personal experience?

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        • #124
          The Russians have had a much better history with dealing with fundamentalists, having been going after them since 1918. The US has only recently flipped into opposing Islam, and has its own fundy problems at home.

          Communism's attitude to religion
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          • #125
            Originally posted by Dissident
            terrorism is terrorism. I am surprised by the lack of sympathy towards the russians.

            Or is it people only care when terrorism happens to the U.S.?

            This is a major terrorist attack here! From the media, you'd think it's something routine.
            Good point

            It's like not even the main headline, or ANY of the main headlines.

            What is?

            Protestors at the Republican convention
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            • #126
              Originally posted by Serb
              SWAT educating Specnaz how to deal with terrorists?
              How about Boy Scouts teaching Spetsnaz?
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              • #127
                Originally posted by Serb
                but votes have not been counted yet.
                In Russia?!?
                "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
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                • #128
                  Originally posted by Serb
                  Exactly.
                  I totally agree.

                  Originally posted by Serb
                  Hmmm... how could you know? Personal experience?
                  I'd have to say no since I don't have the body part in question.
                  "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
                  "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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                  • #129
                    Originally posted by Ted Striker


                    Good point

                    It's like not even the main headline, or ANY of the main headlines.

                    What is?

                    Protestors at the Republican convention
                    Well certainly it should have received more attention than it did, but it certainly was the headline on CNN's website for at least part of one day and has been one of the headlines on the CNN front page for almost a week now. I also saw it mentioned a couple days ago on nbc evening news (the only day i've watched the news on tv recently). People shouldn't get the impression that this is being ignored to the extant that some earlier terrorist attacks against russians were ignored.

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                    • #130
                      Originally posted by Ted Striker
                      It's like not even the main headline, or ANY of the main headlines.
                      I ask again. When have we given much air play to the Russian war in Chechnya? This wasn't going to change things that much. Which is to Russia's benefit.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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                      • #131
                        Terrorists live for air time. I personally think we should deny them any air time as much as possible.
                        "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
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                        • #132
                          so now we move onto the important question.

                          What will Russia's response be? True this isn't as severe as 9/11. But I would expect a harsh response if they find out who is responsible. Would they go ape **** like the U.S. did and bomb everyone? .

                          The funny thing is their response will be unilateral. They can get away with it, but the U.S. can't. hmmm

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                          • #133
                            Since the Russians consider the problem to be an internal matter why would they go to the UN? They aren't going to ask France or Germany or anyone to saction what they will do. They will go in there and bomb whatever they want and I don't think the French or America for that matter will say anything more than a " be careful and don't kill too many people" In many ways their problem is far simpler than what faces the United States.
                            Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                            • #134
                              Is terrorism against the U.S. also not an internal matter? You don't see Al Quida attacking anyone else but the U.S.

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                              • #135
                                Originally posted by Dissident
                                Is terrorism against the U.S. also not an internal matter? You don't see Al Quida attacking anyone else but the U.S.
                                tell that to the Euros
                                Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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