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Originally posted by Dissident
Is this really true?
Is this really true?
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Yes. It's true that the Chechen war doesn't get much play in the US.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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I heard that the Chechens usually declare responsibility right away.It was probably Chechen seperatists, who don't always take responsibility, and this group is just looking to take advantage of that.Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
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but for what reason?Originally posted by DinoDoc
Yes. It's true that the Chechen war doesn't get much play in the US.Comment
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edit: ack! Crosspost. Emp Fab:
True, the Chechen thing is looked upon as an internal dispute, and one in which the Russians have not conducted themselves very well.
Still, the Chechens (some of 'em, anyway) appear to be adopting tactics from Al-Q, and it would behoove us all to cooperate in working against such things. Besides, if we help the Russians out here (to the extent we even can), then I'd dare say they might be more willing to help us out elsewhere.
-Arriangrog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!
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Actually, it looks like the Chechen leader is denying responsibility.
Now Americans may become interested...though, really, its still probably a Chechen act.
EDIT: Crossposting is fun...
Arrian: I hope that that's the case. I haven't yet seen anything RE Bush talking to Putin."I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
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We've already turned our back on them using fuel-air bombs on cities and the myriad of other human rights abuses they've committed in thier dirty war. What more do you want? Troops on the ground?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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exactly!Originally posted by Arrian
edit: ack! Crosspost. Emp Fab:
True, the Chechen thing is looked upon as an internal dispute, and one in which the Russians have not conducted themselves very well.
Still, the Chechens (some of 'em, anyway) appear to be adopting tactics from Al-Q, and it would behoove us all to cooperate in working against such things. Besides, if we help the Russians out here (to the extent we even can), then I'd dare say they might be more willing to help us out elsewhere.
-Arrian
remember in the beginning of this whole war on terror thing. It wasn't supposed to be just about the U.S. It was supposed to involve a cooperation from all nations intelligence agencies to root out terror no matter where it was. If we help them, they may help us later. Of course, if they don't want our help that is another matter.Comment
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Therein lies the difficulty... we don't like their Chechen war. Well, they don't like our Iraq war.
That doesn't preclude our intelligence agencies cooperating to try to prevent terror attacks, does it?
-Arriangrog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!
The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.Comment
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Thank you, Saw my mistake but figured what the hell.Originally posted by Edan
Actually, they crashed within 3 minutes of each other. From what I read, they took off fourty minutes apart.
I'm guessing it was probably terrorism, but even if it isn't, the causes of the crashes are almost undoubtably connected somehow.Comment
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Except that Russians in Chechnya are even more trigger happy, care even less about casualties and created the threat for themselves, after missing a very real opportunity to give them independence and have peace.
An interesting bit. I've heard many times phrases that US soldiers killed x insurgents. Russians never say they kill Chechens - they 'eliminate' them instead.Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
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What is the US supposed to do?
I agree in co-operation to end terror attacks but if we are talking a terror attack that was planned and implemented completely inside Russia, I doubt th US could be of much practical assistance. Really how likely is it that the US would have inteligence sources within the Chechnians better than those Russia has?You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto LuongoComment
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Hence my caveat: to the extent we CAN help. I too doubt there is much we can do.
-Arriangrog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!
The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.Comment
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Obviously the Russians have been far too soft-handed with these Chechens-their failure to use nuclear weapons and chemical weapons to eliminate Chechnya all together has been a total failure....If you don't like reality, change it! me
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Americans could share some experience, since they can't give Russians brains. Their handling of many situations (like the Oct 2002 hostage crisis) was horrible.Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
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Sorry, the Russians check there too...Originally posted by Dissident
uhh, where did they put the explosives?
up their vagina? They must have one big *****
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