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  • Yes, that's why he called you a fraud (edit: at least, that was my interpretation). Since the basic structure of your society could be described as communist (probably something not very different from what Kid has in mind), what with comunally owned land, sharing of houses, and whatnot.
    "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
    -Bokonon

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    • Communism doesn't necessarily mean that some mean old bureaucrat tells you what to do.
      "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
      -Bokonon

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      • As I mentioned earlier...sadly, it is not possible for a fully functioning free market system to come into being with one wave from a magic wand, and even if it were, said wand would be a tool, which we have been denied.

        There is a certain amount of groundwork needed to support the market system, and until that infrastructure is in place and operational, it makes no sense to attempt to kickstart the market, only to watch it crash and burn.

        Thus, until said infrastructure is prepared, SOME provisional system must be put into place.

        That's just common sense and good planning.

        I don't care what else you call it, the point is, it's temporary, transitory, and a stepping stone for something bigger and better.

        -=Vel=-
        The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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        • Yes...I know I'm an amazingly talented man, who's part of an amazingly talented group, but c'mon....this thread's barely been alive 24 hours, and I've only made two days worth of journal entries. In all, we've managed to put six huts together, go fishing, and bottle some water (and build a windmill that doesn't work yet).

          I guess that means that, despite all our vast talent, we're just not quite up to commie expectations that we don't have a fully functioning market after two days.

          / sarcasm off



          -=Vel=-

          EDIT: Oh, and for the record...the key difference is...the state don't own the huts. I do. If I choose to let folks stay over at my house and don't charge them rent (a thing which happens all the time by the way), that don't mean that I'm communist. It means I'm a human being.
          Last edited by Velociryx; August 24, 2004, 22:46.
          The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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          • Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
            and we need more revolutionary rhetoric towards kidatopia. to ensure that we get no defectors, we need to raise the price of them defecting back to the 'topia, and to do that, we need to be treasonous and i say we declare a jihad aiaiaiaiaiaiaiiaiaiai.
            :rofl:
            I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
            - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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            • *Leaflets fall on Liberty Island from the new People's Air Force. They read:

              New citizen's of Liberty Island, we regret that you have decided not to enjoy OUR communist utopia. We are pleased however that you have decided to embrace the ideals of communism and join in our fight against the capitalist running dogs.

              We are pleased to report that the counter revolutionaries were sent to re-education camp, and most of them make the best communists. If you ever need out help in the fight against the evil capitalists we will be there brothers.

              Workers of the World Unite!

              Yours Brothers,

              United Free People of Earth
              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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              • :: found written on the back of one of the leaflets in a bottle out to sea, as it bumps up against one of the ill-repaired People's Destroyers (all the repair guys have been sent to the Virginia Coal mines)

                *To Kidicious Prime, Ruler of Kidatopia,
                When Liberty's GNP surpasses your global output and you find yourself needing a bit of coin, we will accept large tracts of land in trade for hard currency.



                -=Vel=-
                The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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                • Originally posted by Velociryx
                  *To Kidicious Prime, Ruler of Kidatopia,
                  When Liberty's GNP surpasses your global output and you find yourself needing a bit of coin, we will accept large tracts of land in trade for hard currency.
                  *More leaflets

                  We are afraid you have been the victim of capitalist propaganda. Kidicious is nothing more than a happy citizen of The United Free People of Earth. We are a true democracy and we have no need for hard currency. If you want to share the land you are welcome to return. We thank you for taking many Libertarians with you. The small bunch of Libertarians here are on the welfare doles here unfortunately. We wish you luck, and we are inspired by your small settlement.
                  Last edited by Kidlicious; August 25, 2004, 00:19.
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                  - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                  • /me reads the latest leaflets dropping from the sky and smiles. Gives the pilots a thumbs up and shakes his head, thinking that Kid is misguided, but really not a bad fellow at all.

                    We have our island, and mayhaps as we continue, he will continue to be inspired.

                    If that happens....who knows?

                    Who knows indeed.



                    -=Vel=-
                    The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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                    • I'm just glad for the paper

                      I don't believe toilet paper was among our stores
                      You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                      • -=Vel=-
                        The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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                        • Before we can proceed much farther, LoA brings up an excellent point that we need an established, democratically elected leadership FOR Liberty Island, and to that end, we got two nominees for the spot, and no seconds for those nominations.

                          So...this would be a call for seconds to the existing nominations, and a request that if there are any additional nominations, they be made now....we'll close the doors on new nominations at 1:00pm, EST, this afternoon.

                          Let the games begin...

                          -=Vel=-
                          The list of published books grows. If you're curious to see what sort of stories I weave out, head to Amazon.com and do an author search for "Christopher Hartpence." Help support Candle'Bre, a game created by gamers FOR gamers. All proceeds from my published works go directly to the project.

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                          • Vel - that merchant family I mentioned realises that here is something worth encouraging . It takes Tube under its protection , and provides transport for him to Liberty Island so that he can smuggle in whatever the island needs .

                            I am the head of that family . Am I allowed to come ? My political connections in the food city of Kiditopia will help me smuggle in skilled professionals , and even tools , if the need be .

                            Just say the word , and I will come , leaving my business to the commies . I know they won't handle it any better than they did the last one . It will also be a demonstration of the power of a free market where the rights of the individual to trade are respected . The chip crisis will teach them one of many lessons they are to learn .

                            I repeat - am I allowed to come ?

                            And if so , what do you want - note that there are limits to what even I can arrange . I can , however , arrange for a lifetime supply of potato chips in any flavour you ask . Are you game ?
                            Last edited by aneeshm; August 25, 2004, 09:46.

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                            • I can also arrange for a rudimentary currency printer (which I sell permanently to the government , on the condition that they give me capital for any venture I might state , and also give me a generous income (negotiable) ) .

                              The availability of capital can really speed up your fledgeling economy - though I'm afraid inflation might be a problem .

                              I say again - am I welcome ?

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                              • at thread.
                                urgh.NSFW

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