Rallying Point: Liberty Island - Refugees from Kidatopia, report!

[Jon Miller]

soybeans

http://www.luminet.net/~wenonah/new/soybean.htm

http://www.solaeliving.com/soybasics/soyhistory.jsp

you guys can fish for the rest of your meat needs (or bring a few animals to last you a few years)

Jon Miller

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Velociryx
I will.

I will be our designated pack mule and ditch digger.

At 6'6" tall, 265lbs, I make an excellent pack animal...

-=Vel=-

Leaving Kiditopia where everyone shares in the ditch digging to go to a deserted island to do all the ditch digging. Ah, and with no shovel.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Velociryx
and how much contact might be permitted with Kiditopia? (if any)

-=Vel=-

Hmmmm... What type of equipment are you thinking of?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Ramo
And I'll be taking bets on how long it'd take for Liberty Island to degenerate into civil war.

Nah, they will die quickly, as none of them have any survival skills.

::tombstone smilie::

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Velociryx
I will.

I will be our designated pack mule and ditch digger.

At 6'6" tall, 265lbs, I make an excellent pack animal...

-=Vel=-

Here's something to add to your pack:

http://www.defender.com/cgi-bin/Web_store/web_store.cgi?catalog=200107&frames=yes&store=yes

or this:

http://www.solar-electric.com/soutwinair40.html

or, if you have the strength, this:

http://www.solar-electric.com/whis17530wat.html

(you'd have to break that one down among several people)

That should handle your energy needs nicely.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Velociryx
5) Research - the purpose of the research department will be to come up with ideas (even if they sound utterly rediculous) to help all of us push our thinking. This person will also be responsible for evaluating land management and use, charting the best fishing grounds, and will serve as the island weatherman. (code name: Tinker, to keep with DF's naming theme)

Something tells me that the research department is going to be full. Everyone coming up with ideas and poor Vel doing all the ditch digging.

[Jon Miller]

you know, we can just call this giligan's Island

I will be the professor

Jon Miller

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
we just might - but no one will be forced to.

Yeah, because capitalism always works like that, NOT!

[Solomwi]

Count me in. I can bring engineering knowledge, resourcefulness, good looks and a severely warped outlook on life to the group, but not much hair, I'm afraid.

[Velociryx]

Morning...home sick today... UGH....so going back to bed after making a post.

Slow...welcome! As to the not much hair thing, that makes two of us! (but the gypsy harem don't seem to mind...)

Kid: you have the whole farging world and we have a smallish isle in the south pacific. Is that not victory enough? Without a boat (which I'm assuming we don't get to keep) contact with your beloeved utopia will be controlled completely by you.

As to tools and supplies, hey...this is your party.

You are Kidicious Prime and fully in control of the new global economy of Kiditopia.

Therefore, you may be as charitible or as hard core as you wish.

So now YOU have a chance to show the world Kid's true nature.

Do you give us generous helpings of equipment and supplies, showing yourself to be an enlightened and benevolent ruler of all the world, or, do you crush us without using bullets by giving us nothing, or...somewhere in between.

If it's the former, I can come up with a basic list to get us started. If it's the latter, then I'm reckoning that it don't matter..

-=Vel=-

[Velociryx]

oh...and don't worry. We won't be asking ANYONE from Kiditopia to help us build stuff, so we won't be exploiting anyone 'cept for each other, and we're outside the system anyways. Thus the major beef about tools should be solved.

-=Vel=-

[Velociryx]

3000 Wats from a spiffy windmill! ME LIKEY! Man, that definitely goes on the wishlist...220v, to boot! Q, if we get it, I think we found the power supply for the Liberty Island Library!

And along those same lines, in the absense of an abundance of metals, I'm thinking we're pretty much gonna have to "go green" as it were...very eco friendly, making creative use of indigenous materials whenever possible.

Sources of Power:
Hydrothermal? (not sure how to harness)
Tidal
Solar
Wind (it'd be great if we could start constructing functional windmills capable of generating even nominal amounts of juice from purely native materials)
coconut oil (fuel)
steam (water is one thing we got plenty of, and we can build a fire easily enough)

Augmentation of fresh water:
wooden gutters leading to cisterns, using rock, coral, and sand filtration methods (gutters can be built on all 2nd gen and later homes constructed, leading to private cisterns to help with individual water supply)

Augmentation of food stores:
terraced farms, rooftop farms on 2nd gen and beyond homes...gotta make creative use of all available space

more later...must get meds...

-=Vel=-

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Velociryx
oh...and don't worry. We won't be asking ANYONE from Kiditopia to help us build stuff, so we won't be exploiting anyone 'cept for each other, and we're outside the system anyways. Thus the major beef about tools should be solved.

-=Vel=-

{ficticious character Kidicious Prime on}

No Tools For You!

{ficticious character Kidicious Prime off}

[GePap]

Originally posted by Velociryx
* Velociryx thinks out loud:

Questions that need answers/immediate tending to

What to do, and in what order:

1) Food - initial goal = nobody goes hungry
a) Short term goal = surplusses generated (salted and dried fish, etc)--need storage facilities (with surplusses generated, we can spend increasingly less time worrying about having sufficient food, and more time worrying about getting up and running good) - this has gotta be the initial overriding priority
b) Short-Term goal = planting our own crops (will require additional storage facilities) (land management - fertilization) - get the folks over in fishing to donate their fish guts and such as fertilizer for the crops.

2) Water - Initial Goal = Find and identify water supply sources
a) need to create urns and other storage devices for basic water supplies
b) need to work on a basic irrigation system to go hand in hand with our crops
c) determine if any of our sources of water can be used to aid in electrical generation (longer term, but the assessment can begin immediately)
d) begin making plans for needed channels and such to redirect the water to where we need it.

3) Quartermaster's office/provisional government's HQ - necessary to track what supplies we've got, in order to make best use of them - no replacements available!
a) the goal here should be to use our basic supplies to provide all the essentials needed for our survival and to build what infrastructure and machinery we can in order to fashion better/more tools for when these wear out.

4) Medical Facility established

5) Basic housing - gentle climate, we can get by without this for the immediacy, but it's still high on the list and needs to be addressed. Build bale-constructed huts initially, if materials are on-hand (easy to tear down when we begin to dole out land grants and such) - temporary in nature!

6) Judiciary established. Justice of the peace/Constabulary needed to maintain local order and settle disputes as they arise

7) Need to determine what level of contact we are to be
permitted with Kiditopia. If contact with party elites is to be allowed, then the establishment of a facility to recieve them is in order (casino? invite them to poker games with DF...maybe win a few supplies if we find ourselves lacking)

8) Library established
a) using what laptops we bring, Q can gather these together, along with cd's filled with scanned copies of books we manage to make before we're cast off
b) Q assists our division heads with research on all the stuff we need to know to make this thing fly

9) Electricity
a) how to generate
b) what's needed to make the juice generated power our computers after the last battery dies?
c) Machine shop needs juice...aside from the machine shop and the library, everybody else's needs must wait until we are more firmly established (possible not to the medical facility)

Must sleep now....

-=Vel=-

Oh, goody:

CENTRAL PLANNING

Halo Comrade

[Kidlicious]

Oh, I have a question. Shouldn't it be Kiditopia, not Kidatopia? I'm considering using it for my location. You know, the revolution already being a big success and all.