Bush wasted 27 minutes, not 7.

[Tattila the Hun]

I dislike Bush immensely, but his staff seems capable. I'm thinking...

He's reading the book. An aide storms to his side, and tells him the news. He asks: "Is there anything I can do right now?"
"No, Sir."
"Then I'll finish this first."

(Somehow, I am more able to picture Jed Bartlett on that situation, saying those words.)

W isn't very smart, but he knows, if he should do something, his aides will tell him.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Tattila the Hun
I dislike Bush immensely, but his staff seems capable. I'm thinking...

He's reading the book. An aide storms to his side, and tells him the news. He asks: "Is there anything I can do right now?"
"No, Sir."
"Then I'll finish this first."

(Somehow, I am more able to picture Jed Bartlett on that situation, saying those words.)

W isn't very smart, but he knows, if he should do something, his aides will tell him.

There's leadership for you

No, he didn't ask anyone that though. He just kept reading.

[Verto]

What was it that Kerry said, concerning his reaction to the news of the attacks?

"...And as I came in [to a meeting in Sen. Daschle's office], Barbara Boxer and Harry Reid were standing there, and we watched the second plane come in to the building. And we shortly thereafter sat down at the table and then we just realized nobody could think, and then boom, right behind us, we saw the cloud of explosion at the Pentagon..."

What was that, about a 35 minute period?

[St Leo]

Originally posted by Kidicious


A simple 'excuss me, I have some presidential duty to attend to' would be what I would expect.

What presidential duty?

I would have done the same thing Bush did in Bush's place.

Originally posted by Kidicious
He didn't know anything except that we were under attack. The problem is that he didn't bother to find anything out. That's the neglegence.

"Attack" is media spin. He didn't know anything except that planes had taken up a habit of crashing into buildings.

There are far better reason to dislike Bush than his 9/11 behaviour.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Winston
If all the effort and mindpower put into investigating this matter were being used for something worthwhile and perhaps even slightly interesting, we'd all be better off.

I don't recall you saying the same thing when the Republicans were throwing massive amount of resources investigating Clinton's affair.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Verto
What was it that Kerry said, concerning his reaction to the news of the attacks?

"...And as I came in [to a meeting in Sen. Daschle's office], Barbara Boxer and Harry Reid were standing there, and we watched the second plane come in to the building. And we shortly thereafter sat down at the table and then we just realized nobody could think, and then boom, right behind us, we saw the cloud of explosion at the Pentagon..."

What was that, about a 35 minute period?

Harry Reid . He's actually a good democrat.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by St Leo
"Attack" is media spin. He didn't know anything except that planes had taken up a habit of crashing into buildings.

That's not true. We know exactly what he was told.

[Winston]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


I don't recall you saying the same thing when the Republicans were throwing massive amount of resources investigating Clinton's affair.

Correct, since that was before you and I had registered here.

But if you must know, yes, I had the same stance on Monicagate - except for the small matter of whether the President was giving false testimony while under oath. That was a cruncher, to me at least.

[chequita guevara]

What did Guliani do when he was told?

[Winston]

How I felt about the Lewinsky-affair? I heard he seemed pretty indifferent to it.

Sorry.

[Velociryx]

Bottom line:

I think it's a fairly natural assumption that when you here the phrase "America is under attack," the appropriate response is NOT to sit and continue to read "My pet goat."

IMO, what gets people's goat about Moore bringing this BACK to the surface is not that it's a non-issue (because let's face it, the fact that we have a moron for a prez certainly IS an issue), it's the fact that it's so blindingly obvious that it's almost rude to point it out.

Yes.

We have a moron for a president.

As if that wasn't obvious before.

But, the point got driven home beautifully (and captured on film, no less!) when he heard the phrase "America is under attack" and sat there (on camera) for the span of several minutes, looking like he generally does, with that expression that says "I have not the FIRST FREAKING CLUE what the hell to do."

Out of curiosity: Do you suppose Winston Churchill would have continued reading "My pet goat" if one of his advisors interrupted him with "England is under attack"?

-=Vel=-

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Velociryx
Out of curiosity: Do you suppose Winston Churchill would have continued reading "My pet goat" if one of his advisors interrupted him with "England is under attack"?

No, he would have asked for a refill of his scotch and soda.


You would think though, that maybe he would have asked for more details. "What do you mean under attack? How? Where? When?". Its not as though he saw it on a TV screen and knew it was gobsmackingly awful. Or did the aide say "The Twin Towers have been hit by planes."

[Velociryx]

I've read enough Churchill to believe that, too!

I'd imagine his response would have been to say something glib and reassurinig (and beautifully quotable) to the press present, excused himself, both to get another drink and to get to a place where information was easier to get to and more relevant than the contents of "My pet goat," and been on the air shortly with a statement for the people he led (even if that statement was little more than, "we're on it, stay tuned for details")

One thing I know for sure. He (Churchill) would NOT have sat idly by, reading a children's book, looking like a little lost six-year-old waiting for someone in the know to take him to the customer service desk to have his mommy paged (or in this case, his daddy) to tell him what to do next.

-=Vel=-

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Seeker
"he toppled the Taliban"

yeah that Bush...of course NO OTHER administration would've attacked the admitted al-Qaeda harbouring Taliban during American's time of grief and anger. Nope, ONLY 'W' would've had the balls. What decisive action and strategy! Truly a mighty leader worthy to manage hold the reins of the mightiest military.

Or something.

Yea, I mean Clinton knew that the guy behind the embassy bombings and the attack on the Cole was living in Afghanistan and training people to do more of the same, and he waltzed right in there and... oh wait, he lobbed a few missles at some tents.

Consider that toppling the Taliban had a lot more to do with diplomacy than military strength, and that Bush got a lot of countries who didn't want us in there previously to allow us to stage from their soil, overfly their territory, overthrow their neighbor (and in the case of Pakistan, their regime). That took some doing, and it was done quickly.

[:) Smiley]

The administration was the first to admit after the attacks that only the president could have authorised shooting down civilian aircraft.

is there anything the prez can't do?