Bush wasted 27 minutes, not 7.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Tingkai


To use your analogy, if an emergency happens on a ship, the captain goes to the bridge. He doesn't stay in bed reading a book.

But what Bush did is completley understandable. When faced with an emergency, he was overwhelmed. He went into shock. He didn't know what to do. He was out of his depth.

exactly!!!

and if the bridge is too unsafe to go to (although in the navy I don't know of any captain that would refuse to go to the bridge no matter how unsafe it is), the captain should go to CIC (combat information center). You don't hang out in a training room with no communications equipment.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

I believe your indicting the secret service security teams moreso than the Prez.

[Flubber]

I wouldn't mind that a supreme commander takes a calm approach to an emergency. The key is having capable people and plans in place at the lower levels to handle matters. I can think of very little that a president can do in this situation that requires an immediate decision-- and if an immediate decision were needed, his many many support folks would let him know.

While 9-11 was horrendous, I also like the message that its "business as usual" in the face of such acts. The message is that while you may hurt us a little, a nation WILL continue and will act as we have always done.


Don't get me wrong here. I think Bush is not very smart ( and not in an " aww shucks" cutesy way). I shudder that he is the American president. I can find many faults with him. Its just for me, this is not one of them. It may have looked better to some for him to rush off, but the reality was that there was not much at all that he could do at that stage

[Kuciwalker]

You know, on the list of things for which Bush could be accused for ****ing up, this is probably at the very bottom.

[Stuie]

Check out question number one; very apropos:

http://www.bettybowers.com/2004ccvoterguide.html

[Dis]

I pretty much agree. But it just looks bad.

There's a reason why the captain stays with his ship when it goes down. And he stays in the bridge if at all possible. Even if that captain can't do much.

It just looks so cowardly.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Winston
You did 45 minutes in Lincoln's thread. But I admit you may have gotten better.

I was defending him as a veteren of our country, not as a presidential candidate.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by The diplomat


Everybody knows that what Bush meant is that we should not stop thinking about how terrorists may harm this country.

Then everyone knows he's retarded too.

[Seeker]

"he toppled the Taliban"

yeah that Bush...of course NO OTHER administration would've attacked the admitted al-Qaeda harbouring Taliban during American's time of grief and anger. Nope, ONLY 'W' would've had the balls. What decisive action and strategy! Truly a mighty leader worthy to manage hold the reins of the mightiest military.

Or something.

[Kidlicious]

Re: Re: Bush wasted 27 minutes, not 7.

Originally posted by SpencerH


Bull****. Show me one photo of Bush after he left the classroom at approximately 9:12. This is too stupid for any further comment.

Obviously you think this is a big deal. I read this from Bill Maher. I trust it enough not to need to look for the pictures.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Bill Maher?? Puhlease!!

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Bill Maher?? Puhlease!!

Are you just saying that because he's not a conformist, or do you actually have a valid point?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Merely because he represents extreme partisanship in my opinion.

The fact that anyone gives him any credence and that he wasn't relegated to the trash heap of irrelevancy after his comments following 9/11 is confounding to me.

A puffed up self aggrandizing figure of little value, seems he would be the perfect candidate for president. Seems to fit the mold at least.

[Gibsie]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
I think I've been on record numerours times in the F911 about the ludricous attempts to make an issue out of a clearly meaningless factoid when there was little to nothing that was capable of being done in the that time frame, be it 7 or 27 minutes.

Were you to say he was derelict for a span of 2 or more hours during that time, there could be a point.

My point regarding Kerry is likewise to show/highlight the idiocy of the right making this a counterpoint.

This is a nonissue.

If you think it's a non-issue that's fair enough, but pointing to what someone else who was not responsible for any type of response did at the time is a complete non sequitur. Now if you could show that other people at the top of the command chain in the US just stood around doing nothing for half an hour after the event, then you've got a point. Otherwise you might as well point at Bill Clinton or Michael Moore as much as Kerry. Hell you could even point at me, "Look at Gibsie, when he heard the news he was getting ready for a job interview and did nothing in response, so how can anyone condemn Bush for not doing anything for a while!?"

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Merely because he represents extreme partisanship in my opinion.

Disagreeing with someones opinions isn't the same as disputing their facts.