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  • #31
    Originally posted by Verto


    Yes, everyone knows you aren't really black unless you are poor, on welfare, doing drugs, and lacking the ability to speak proper English.

    Racist
    The color of Keyes' skin is undeniable... but he is not black in the sense that he isn't a member of the black community. And he certainly isn't a part of black culture in America. Nor does he care about what's best for the black community or black people in general.

    Keyes is a member of White America... rich, white america more specifically. Just another conservative dingbat. But his color is significant because Keyes has no other qualities that sets him apart from most conservatives. If he were white, he'd be just another dopey Repuke. But the Repukes trot him out there simply because he's black and running against a black candidate in the IL Senate race.
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Wernazuma III
      Isn't Keyes Spencer's "politician of choice"?
      Yes cos of comments like this

      At a news conference earlier Tuesday, a fired up Keyes discussed the debate over expanding O'Hare International Airport, an issue he has yet to take a stand on, saying the multi-billion dollar issue is paralyzed by political corruption.

      "It's sort of like you're sitting in a room and off in a corner of the room is a deeply smelly toad that is filling the room with a nasty odor," Keyes said. "And everybody is holding their cocktails and wearing their ties and they're not talking about this smelly toad but the room is filled with the stink of it."

      "That stink is political corruption," he said. "That stink is the willingness to undermine what needs to be done for the people so that you can serve your power interest and your political interest. And this stink is in everybody's nostrils."
      Keyes is intelligent, he's a brilliant speaker, and he seems to believe most of what he says. I dont agree with everything he says, I agree with the man.

      I too am willing to pay reparations- to any african americans who can prove they were slaves. As someone else has already mentioned, given the low per capita income of that community, this wouldnt cost us much in lost taxes, but it might be a 'show of good faith'.

      Of course it could never happen. Just how could anyone decide who would get it? There is no testable definition of african american.
      We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
      If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
      Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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      • #33
        I too am willing to pay reparations- to any african americans who can prove they were slaves. As someone else has already mentioned, given the low per capita income of that community, this wouldnt cost us much in lost taxes, but it might be a 'show of good faith'.
        How would this cost one dollar of lost taxes?
        Stop Quoting Ben

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Q Cubed
          cool.

          i just don't see why keyes isn't black, and why this allegation comes from the supposedly non-racist leftist folk in the forums.

          is a black white supremacist (a la chapelle show) any less black because of his political views?
          I didn't say anything racist. There's something wrong with someone who doesn't defend a discriminated and largely impoverished group of people when especially when they come from that group. I don't like the work Uncle Tom, but I don't think it's racist to call someone that.
          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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          • #35
            I didn't say anything racist.


            Yes you did. You can't be 'black' unless you approve of a specific set of actions. That's a racist statement. You believe you have to act a certain way to be a member of a racial set.

            There's something wrong with someone who doesn't defend a discriminated and largely impoverished group of people when especially when they come from that group.


            Who says he doesn't? Why is there only ONE way to defend a discriminated and impoverished group of people? More attempted backing for an utterly racist statement.
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #36
              Oh look, Keyes says that those evil abortionists were responsible for 9/11:

              Now, you think it's a coincidence that on Sept. 11th, 2001, we were struck by terrorists an evil that has at its heart the disregard of innocent human life? We who have for several decades killed not thousands but scores of millions of our own children, in disregard of the principle of innocent human life -- I don't think that's a coincidence, I think that's a warning. I don't think that's a coincidence, I think that's a shot across the bow.

              I think that's a way of Providence telling us, "I love you all; I'd like to give you a chance. Wake up! Would you please wake up?"




              Very insightful, Alan Falwell.
              "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
              -Bokonon

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                I didn't say anything racist.


                Yes you did. You can't be 'black' unless you approve of a specific set of actions. That's a racist statement. You believe you have to act a certain way to be a member of a racial set.

                There's something wrong with someone who doesn't defend a discriminated and largely impoverished group of people when especially when they come from that group.


                Who says he doesn't? Why is there only ONE way to defend a discriminated and impoverished group of people? More attempted backing for an utterly racist statement.
                Whatever. You will have to do more than make a bald assertion if you want to make me look like a racist.
                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                • #38
                  Quoting your posts works fairly well ...
                  Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                  It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                  The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Last Conformist
                    Quoting your posts works fairly well ...
                    Out of context perhaps, which is usual business around here. I didn't say black people are inferior, just the opposite. I only said that some black people were stupid. Right? That's not racist. Try harder.
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                    • #40
                      As you very well know, the accusation relies on your saying that taking certain ideological position to be necessary to be a "real" black".
                      Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                      It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                      The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Last Conformist
                        As you very well know, the accusation relies on your saying that taking certain ideological position to be necessary to be a "real" black".
                        and? I'm waiting for a connection.
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Last Conformist
                          As you very well know, the accusation relies on your saying that taking certain ideological position to be necessary to be a "real" black".
                          What's happening is that people are conflating being a member of the African American (sub) culture and a member of the Black race.
                          Stop Quoting Ben

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Q Cubed
                            It's got more to do with what you know. Black people are more intelligent about certain things. Keyes is not.

                            like what? dancing and having rhythm, playing basketball? does being black grant some sort of genetic memory towards the ills of slavery and discrimination? that they have some ethnic predisposition to poor school performance, crime, and poverty?

                            it's stupid to say someone isn't black because he doesn't "act" black. you stick him in the boonies somewhere where there are racists, they'll lynch him along with colin powell, condi rice, and john white.

                            if being white only entails acting white, keyes should never get discriminated against, i would be a honkie, and bush would have an all-white cabinet.
                            Thanks for saving me the trouble.
                            He's got the Midas touch.
                            But he touched it too much!
                            Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Boshko

                              How would this cost one dollar of lost taxes?
                              Because not all african americans are poor. Giving all descendents of slaves a reprieve on taxes would mean some loss of tax revenue (which would have to made up in some fashion).
                              We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                              If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                              Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Ramo
                                Oh look, Keyes says that those evil abortionists were responsible for 9/11:

                                Now, you think it's a coincidence that on Sept. 11th, 2001, we were struck by terrorists an evil that has at its heart the disregard of innocent human life? We who have for several decades killed not thousands but scores of millions of our own children, in disregard of the principle of innocent human life -- I don't think that's a coincidence, I think that's a warning. I don't think that's a coincidence, I think that's a shot across the bow.

                                I think that's a way of Providence telling us, "I love you all; I'd like to give you a chance. Wake up! Would you please wake up?"




                                Very insightful, Alan Falwell.
                                Keyes is a very religious man, perhaps even a fundamentalist. Leaving aside the religious perspective (as I do), are you saying you dont see the hypocrisy of condemning the 9/11 terrorists disregard for human life while conducting over a million abortions yearly in the USA?
                                We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                                If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                                Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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