Ahh, Women...

[Snowflake]

Originally posted by Pekka
couldn't put it any better .

That's the ultimate truth right there. And women lie too. The make up is a lie. 'What's wrong? I want to look pretty for you?' OK, then why did you let your butt go 4 feet wide the same time? They put on make up, because make up is cool, it's like a series of products you need to have. In the morning, man looks still the same. The man deal is easy. You get what you ordered. But women in the morning? Uh oh.. especially after wild night out. That's a crime too. It's a lie. Live in deception. I'm not sayinhg women shouldn't use make up. I'm just saying it's a lie.

The ultimate lie of women getting fake boobs because men, and that would be bad? Who is the first one to squeeze the fake boob when it's done? That's right, the girlfriend of her. They get to squeeze and admire it first. The fact is, they take boob jobs because they want to take boob jobs. Adn that's another lie. Everyone should be OK with waht God gave to them. If it makes someone feel better to have bigger breasts, well go ahead, but the problem is not the smaller chest. It's in the head, and the self image. That's the real source of the problem.

Ever since Eve allied with the snake, things have been bad.. because of Eve, I was denied the paradise on earth. Is it the fault of women? No. Does it make Eve evil? No.. but it makes her stupid. You see, there is the very nature of women. 'Uhh Adam is boring, he doesn't jump when I say so' when he's out there, doing something they do in paradise. So she gets bored, and the snake offers something to do. That's right, when the man turns his back, the woman starts to make up his own stuff, that can be evil too. Because they're bored. Because Adam didn't stimulate her enough. Maybe he missed one 'I love you' and that was it. You see, Eve was the first SUPER feminist. He hated all men. He only knew one man, but since he was the only man there was, he loved all men. And Adam loved all women. Eve was the only woman, but you see, Adam loved her so he loved all women, plus at the same time was faithful because she was the only woman. These days, men still love women, and women still do their evil things while the men is not right there. Because they get bored. And they have some complex issues, which is BS in action.

Oooo and yes yes I just couldn't pass this and let it go. Adam and Eve are always my favorite topic.

Adam was content (and stupid?) to be hanging around all day doing nothing. Eve wanted more. She wanted changes, actions, she was not afraid of adventure. Yes she was not obidient, she was alive. So she bit the apple, and started the entire human history, what a rich and interesting history this is too. Shouldn't we all be in debt to her? Without Eve human beings would still be there hanging around nakedly, knowing nothing.

[Snowflake]

Originally posted by Pekka
And just to let you know, God is on my side, as I hit submit reply button, the thunder struck.

OMG. Do you know when the thunder struck when you do something, it usually means that God is angry with your action?

[Snowflake]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger

Nope. That was the proper place to break it.

What a stubborn man. But women know when to let it go. When the facts are established and everybody else knows who is the real winner, we don't mind to let our men feel that he is the winner.

Originally posted by duke o' york
It's a crappy plastic thing that you can get in salad bars, etc. Basically it's a cross between a spoon and a fork. Whence the name.

However, a cross between a spoon and a knife is a runcible spoon. Now that's got a decent name.

And that's why I love men.

[duke o' york]

Originally posted by Snowflake
OMG. Do you know when the thunder struck when you do something, it usually means that God is angry with your action?

As I recall, from the best-known version of the tale, God wasn't overly happy with Eve's choice of dessert either. Doubtless he made a thunderclap then too. But this would mean that Pekka had done something good, if God were unhappy with him, because Eve did....

[MikeH]

I just wouldn't mind getting laid.

[Pekka]

"Men are claimed simple but they are in fact quite capable of complex. Women are claimed complex but they are sometimes simple. This situation is complex and it is a simple fact. However, the complexity of the situation doesn't give any excuse to women to be complex, because what they claimed complex is not rooted from the fact of the complexitiy of the situation, in fact it is rooted completely from something else, which is their illogical emotional state."

Yeah, I said this many times already?

Like I said, it doesn't make it forbidden action, it just makes it action without excuses. That was my original claim.

"We all agree that men exist, does it destroy the excuses for men?"

No. Because men don't act on their emotional complexity, unless they're mentally ill.

"As I said before, emotion is not BS. Emotion is a natural part of our lifes. The fact that men are trained to conceal it does not make it BS."

OK, so you just refuse to call it BS. It still doesn't make my original claim wrong. You're trying to counter little words, not the big argument, which you fail to counter.

"Admit it, women and men are simply different."

Yes, and they have no excuse for it.

"You are right in saying that women always want to change men. And men also always want women to change. We don't have to do that any more. In this new era, people do not try to change people, people try to understand people."

Which would be nice if it was true.

"Adaption is not trying to make one side change. When two people argues whether the toothpaste should be squeezed from the end or from the middle, one doesn't necessarily have to win. "

So why is it women who always start that fight? Men would let it be. Women just start their sadistic tower shaking and questioning of the relationship. And they have NO excuse for it.

"I appreciate your state of high spirit of a supercitizen , your courageous fight against anything that is in your way."

You better. I protect women also in my SC missions.

"I understand your desire of a victory, and your male proud that forbids you to submit to a woman."

I submit when my theory is destroyed. Which is never.

"I understand when you say "you are fat", you just don't know how to express your frustration."

No, the only function of that is to make the other one shut up. It doesn't have to be a fact that the other person is fat. The only goal is to make the person quiet.

"There doesn't always need to be a winner and a loser between a man and a woman."

I never claimed that either. I simply stated that women have no excuse. Thus it is OK to use the STRONG MAN FAQ as a guide. IF they had a good excuse, then insulting someone would be insensitive, don't you think? It's a horrible thing to say, but if there's no excuse, and you need to be left alone from the wild accusations and fights, you have to do what you have to do.

The Adam and Eve thing isnt' really an issue either, shouldn't have posted it, but I was bored. I don't blame Eve. But she has no excuses for her actions.

[duke o' york]

Mike, go and talk to women. You'll find that not all of them are against the idea. Mind you, you'll have to deal with the consequences then, and don't say Pekka didn't warn you.

[MikeH]

Men/women they are all people and there are a lot more similarities than differences, makes life a lot easier to remember that.

[Snowflake]

Originally posted by duke o' york


As I recall, from the best-known version of the tale, God wasn't overly happy with Eve's choice of dessert either. Doubtless he made a thunderclap then too. But this would mean that Pekka had done something good, if God were unhappy with him, because Eve did....

Oh yea, of course pekka did something good. He brought an interesting debate to humor you all didn't he?

[Pekka]

Or to say it in words that describes the situation more accurately, I brought a debate where I whoop azzzz!

[Snowflake]

Originally posted by Pekka
"Admit it, women and men are simply different."

Yes, and they have no excuse for it.

Hmmm lets see. How about we say that they are based on facts?

Now using your logic (poor pekka) both women and men have no excuse for being different so it should be ok to insult both of them. Hmmm ...

"You are right in saying that women always want to change men. And men also always want women to change. We don't have to do that any more. In this new era, people do not try to change people, people try to understand people."

Which would be nice if it was true.

It will be true if we start to do this. Yes we may be the first ones who start this new era. Why shouldn't we be the first ones? Why couldn't we be the first ones? If it is something nice, why don't we make it true?

You are free to try your approach. I'm advocating my approach, but I am not forcing anybody to accept it. It is laid out in front of you. If you like to try something different, try it. If you are afraid, it is ok. I will not be responsible for your loss though, don't say I haven't warned you.

[Pekka]

No, you are not following my logic. Maybe you lack it, I don't know, but you're using the theory wrong. You can't make that same conclusion about men. YES, men and women are different and women have no excuse. If a man starts to bug the woman about something that isn't a simple fact, then he's has no excuses as well. But that never happens, now does it. The toothpaste fight is started by a woman. And she has no excuse for it.

"It will be true if we start to do this."

So you admit the current state of this isn't true then.

Why you should be the first ones? If you understood my theory, I already answered to it several times.

Warned me about what? Being reasonable?

[Snowflake]

Originally posted by Pekka
No, you are not following my logic. Maybe you lack it, I don't know, but you're using the theory wrong. You can't make that same conclusion about men.

Oh I'm following you. What you say is very simple, note it, simple. You say everybody does not have an excuse for doing things if they are not based on facts. I got you all along. What I'm bugging you is who made the rule that people have to have excuses to do things, and who made the rule that people do not have an excuse for doing things that are not based on facts. Look the "no excuse if not based on facts" is a claim by you, not a fact. So by your own logic you have no excuse to say that, because it is not based on facts. (Get it? )

YES, men and women are different and women have no excuse.

This is the most logical thing I've ever heard. This ought to go to the Something To Think About While You Wait thread. In fact I'm posting it there right now.

"It will be true if we start to do this."

So you admit the current state of this isn't true then.

Of course not. If it is true that all men understood women and all women understood men then this thread would not be here. Don't you understand we're openning the new era here? There are already people who have started trying. If you are not satisfied with the current state, don't sit and complain. Do something about it.

Warned me about what? Being reasonable?

Warned you about the fact that if you keep a negative attitude toward women it is very likely you won't be able to find the one that you are going to have a long crush on, or even if you find one, it is very likely that she will not have a long crush on you.

[Barinthus]

Originally posted by duke o' york
Mike, go and talk to women. You'll find that not all of them are against the idea. Mind you, you'll have to deal with the consequences then, and don't say Pekka didn't warn you.

Listen to him, Mike. In my experience, every single lover I ever had no matter what they said like "I don't want relationship, I only want to have fun, yadda yadda" eventually in the end wants to have a committed relationship with me. It'll happen to you especially if you're very good in the bed.

It has gotten to be so bad I pretty much gave up the idea of having 'friends with benefits,' not worth the emotional drama.

And oh to whoever asked, this is a spork...

[Snowflake]

And I was thinking pekka was gonna let this thread slip to the second page ...