Planned Parenthood T-Shirts

[chequita guevara]

What's wrong with abortion? It's no more immoral than any other kind of surgery. I had a mole removed once. No big deal. Just another piece of human tissue snipped away.

[Q Classic]

that just means he's pro-life.

what, you think they should be allowed to blow up bulidings? you anti-life pro-choice weenie! aborting people's lives!

[Q Classic]

What's wrong with abortion? It's no more immoral than any other kind of surgery. I had a mole removed once. No big deal. Just another piece of human tissue snipped away.

did the mole have a nervous system, digits, and the potential to being a viable human being?

[Sava]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Sava, we've been over this: you're also anti-choice, because you don't support the terrorists' right to choose to blow up buildings.

and now you're being stupid as usual

I guess we need to make these titles all politically correct for the dopes out there.

ANTI-FREEDOM-OF-REPRODUCTIVE-CHOICE

Is that specific enough for you?

How about: pro-force-the-baby-out-of-the-woman-against-her-will?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
Pro-choicers are always trying to say they are against abortions, but think they shouldn't be illegal.

Did I say that?

/me checks records

No.

Originally posted by OzzyKP
to the culture of death

I hope you don't eat meat - or anything else for that matter, and don't kill any microbes.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Q Cubed

What's wrong with abortion? It's no more immoral than any other kind of surgery. I had a mole removed once. No big deal. Just another piece of human tissue snipped away.

did the mole have a nervous system, digits, and the potential to being a viable human being?

and we shouldn't kill bacteria because they have the "potential" to evolve into advanced civilizations!

that's why the key word is "potential"...

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
did the mole have a nervous system, digits, and the potential to being a viable human being?

No, no, yes.

However, not all "things" aborted have a nervous system or digits.

[Imran Siddiqui]

This shirt is distasteful. It's like a guy killing someone in self-defense and then wearing a shirt trumpeting it.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
This shirt is distasteful. It's like a guy killing someone in self-defense and then wearing a shirt trumpeting it.

I'm tempted to browse the NRA's website now that you mention that.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
This shirt is distasteful. It's like a guy killing someone in self-defense and then wearing a shirt trumpeting it.

Only if you are equating an abortion with killing a human being. Which is of course the very crux of the issue.

[Q Classic]

and we shouldn't kill bacteria because they have the "potential" to evolve into advanced civilizations!

that's why the key word is "potential"...

except a fetus will develop into a viable human being in less than a year, while the bacteria, with their short lifespans and prodigious breeding habits would likely blossom into an advanced civilization before you could clean it off the plate in the back of the fridge.

However, not all "things" aborted have a nervous system or digits.

this is true. that said, it's still a human life, meaning it's more than a "thing".

the only reason why i even joined this tired discussion is because i am one of those pro-choice pro-life people that ozzykp don't think exist.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Q Cubed

What's wrong with abortion? It's no more immoral than any other kind of surgery. I had a mole removed once. No big deal. Just another piece of human tissue snipped away.

did the mole have a nervous system, digits, and the potential to being a viable human being?

My sperm has the potential to be a human being. Does this mean throwing it away on a tissue is murder? Potential human beings are not human beings. Anyway, the mole had nerve endings and eventually I'm sure technology will be developed to clone people from extrenious tissue.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Q Cubed

and we shouldn't kill bacteria because they have the "potential" to evolve into advanced civilizations!

that's why the key word is "potential"...

except a fetus will develop into a viable human being in less than a year,

Actually, may develop is more accurate. Many zygotes and fetuses sponteniously abort. Hell, all birth control does is keep the zygote from implanting, so if you're seriously opposed to abortion, you should be opposed to the pill as well.

[Q Classic]

My sperm has the potential to be a human being. Does this mean throwing it away on a tissue is murder? Potential human beings are not human beings. Anyway, the mole had nerve endings and eventually I'm sure technology will be developed to clone people from extrenious tissue.

your sperm didn't have all the necessary chromosomes. a fertilized egg/zygote/fetus does.

the mole did not have a full nervous system that was self-contained. it connected to yours.

the technology to clone people from extraneous tissue has not arrived yet, which means that the mole did not have the potential to become a viable human being in a year, whereas the fetus does through a natural process.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
the technology to clone people from extraneous tissue has not arrived yet, which means that the mole did not have the potential to become a viable human being in a year, whereas the fetus does through a natural process.

Not necessarily. That simply means the potential cannot be realised at this point in time, not the potential does not exist.