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Sudan would be a better choiceOriginally posted by Ted Striker
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In that case we should invade Venzuela, Saudi Arabia, and Mexico.
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The US gets most of its oil from North America actually.Originally posted by Ted Striker
And what you geniuses are forgetting is that:
1) The US gets most of it's oil from South America12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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The rest of the world is tapping its supplies much, much faster than the mideast is. In 20 years we're going to see a lot more production of oil (as a percentage) coming out of the ME than we do today.Originally posted by Ted Striker
And what you geniuses are forgetting is that:
1) The US gets most of it's oil from South America
2) The US is signing deals with former Soviet nations to secure new oil supplies. This is a plan to circumvent the entire middle east.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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That might prove difficult. We are already nearing the extraction rate limits of current technology.
It's not just a matter of sinking new wells or building new pumps. Like aquifers, there is a maximum sustainable rate at which you can draw oil from reserves; you go over that rate at the risk of damaging or shutting down that reserve.No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.Comment
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Well duhOriginally posted by KrazyHorse
The US gets most of its oil from North America actually.
I was talking about imported oil.
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SpeculativeOriginally posted by KrazyHorse
The rest of the world is tapping its supplies much, much faster than the mideast is. In 20 years we're going to see a lot more production of oil (as a percentage) coming out of the ME than we do today.We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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Human Rights Under Allawi's Iraq
US military police raid Iraqi detention centre to stop abuse of prisoners
Confusion over armed soldiers' intervention
Peter Beaumont in Baghdad
Wednesday June 30, 2004
The Guardian
American military police yesterday raided a building belonging to the Iraqi ministry of the interior where prisoners were allegedly being physically abused by Iraqi interrogators.
The raid appeared to be a violation of the country's new sovereignty, leading to angry scenes inside the ministry between Iraqi policemen and US soldiers.
The military police, who had been told of abuse, seized an area known as the Guesthouse just outside the ministry's main building. They disarmed the Iraqi policemen and at one stage threatened to set free prisoners whose handcuffs they removed, according to Iraqi officials.
The arrival of a second group of US military police and a more senior officer led to an argument between the two groups of military policemen over who had command authority for the raid.
Iraqi ministry of interior officials admitted that around 150 prisoners taken during a raid four days before in the Betawain district of Baghdad had been physically abused during their arrest and subsequent questioning.
The men were captured in the first big Iraqi-led anti-crime and anti-terrorism operation, which took place a few days before the transfer of power, with US military police in support and using US satellite images.
Senior Iraqi officers described those captured as "first class murderers, kidnappers and terrorists with links to al-Ansar" - a militant group in the former Kurdish no-fly zone - who had all admitted to "at least 20 crimes while being questioned".
According to an al-Jazeera television crew, who had been filming the prisoners when the US military police conducted their raid, most of the detainees were blindfolded, with their hands cuffed behind their backs. One prisoner was so weak, from dehydration, that the US military policemen fitted an intravenous drip to rehydrate him.
Although none of the American officers involved in the raid would talk to the Guardian, one of the soldiers involved in the raid said that it had been launched after claims that prisoners were being abused.
US military spokesmen would not comment. "We can't confirm that this took place," a spokesman said.
One of the prisoners bared his back after his initial arrest to reveal open welts allegedly caused by baton and rubber hoses.
A bodyguard for the head of criminal intelligence, Hussein Kamal, admitted that the beatings had taken place.
Nashwan Ali - who said his nickname was Big Man - said: "A US MP asked me this morning what police division I was in. I said I was in criminal intelligence.
"The American asked me why we had beaten the prisoners. I said we beat the prisoners because they are all bad people. But I told him we didn't strip them naked, photograph them or **** them like you did."
The clear evidence of human rights abuses in the ministry building, which western advisers said they were not aware was being used for interrogations, raises serious questions over what authority the US and other multinational forces have to intervene if they suspect human rights abuses.
Although the new interim government of prime minister Ayad Allawi has warned that it may impose "drastic measures" - including invoking emergency powers to combat the worsening security situation in the country - advisers from the former coalition say they have been at pains to train Iraqi officers in human rights. This takes up one of their eight weeks' training.
One western police adviser said he had no idea that the ministry itself was being used for questioning suspects. "It sounds rather like the bad old days," he said.
Liberation.
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"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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