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  • #31
    Originally posted by Ming


    And sure, you can watch for machines that are "due"...
    I KNEW i was right!!

    (just kiddin' KH )

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    • #32
      While the last may be untrue, the logic of the first is... keep the money you won, don't give it back. I wasn't making a comment on whether the machine would stay hot or not... just to keep the money. Be a winner
      Keep on Civin'
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      • #33


        Most likely a loser. I can't abide the thought of throwing my money away to a machine that doesn't care if I'm Albert Einstein or a complete imbecile.
        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
        Stadtluft Macht Frei
        Killing it is the new killing it
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        • #34
          I would have to agree with Slowwhand. I don't know about the rest of them machines but at least in here, you play poker machine or just regular slots, the best ones are when many people played and didn't win.. at some point they start pouring the money out too some so that's when you want to be playing.

          In cruise ships, the staff always goes to play the machines after all the travellers have gone to the land, spent all their money in machines, and then it's *CHING CHING*. I've seen it happening before my own eyes and was even succesfull in it myself few times in cruise ships. Not big money but I was able to take out 600fim with only 50fim.. 600fim being 100 dollars. Big money to young lad I was then.

          Because they only give you (the poker machines) like two pairs, three of a kind at the best, or just nothing at all. If this continues for a long time, you want that machine to yourself. Soon it starts giving those bigger winnings like four of a kind and full house etc. The trick is to know when it stops being such a slot and starts giving some. BUt when it starts, it goes on for a good time.
          In da butt.
          "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
          THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Ming
            While the last may be untrue, the logic of the first is... keep the money you won, don't give it back. I wasn't making a comment on whether the machine would stay hot or not...
            .....like I say, just kiddin'

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            • #36
              Are we going to get into to 'Spearman .vs. Tank' debate?

              You know Pi+Pn and all that! :O)

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              • #37
                If you're trying to earn money, why would you play slots?

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                • #38
                  If you want to gamble, forex is the way to go.

                  Really exciting, I tell you.
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                  • #39
                    or the machines that changes your bills into coins.. win every time!
                    In da butt.
                    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                    THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                    "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Kucinich
                      If you're trying to earn money, why would you play slots?
                      What? Do you expect PA to get a real job? That would require actually doing some work. Besides, writing applications takes too much time away from playing the slots.
                      Golfing since 67

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                      • #41
                        well I work on slot machines (well I used to).

                        While I have seen a couple with over 100% payouts, that was a long time ago.

                        No machine is set above 98% payout.

                        You can't win. period.

                        Your only shot is to put a few bucks in, hit a royal flush or 4 aces and then walk away and never gamble again .

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Cruddy
                          Well Bods, I can tell you that a couple of "real" (ie successful) programmer friends of mine will never play the things - after working for a company that serviced them.

                          You see, before you've put the money in, they've decided if there's a chance of paying out or not.

                          In the UK, the govt sets the minimum payout of 70% of what you put in.

                          Of course, that doesn't mean even over a whole lifetime you'll get back exactly 70% of what you put in...

                          ...But every time you put money in, that's the proportion of cash you can expect to get back.

                          The odds can be skewed if the operator has "stoked" the machine not to pay out at 70%, or the other way if it's malfunctioning or has recently been compromised by a professional gambler...

                          ... A gambling compulsion can cost your money, your self respect, and your life. Set limits, BE ABLE TO WALK AWAY - and you;ll probably be OK.

                          Personally, I only play them when;-

                          a) I NEED money (typically to get public transport home).

                          b) I have SOME money but not enough.

                          c) If I crap out and lose the lot, it's walkable.
                          In Las Vegas the minimum payout is 94%

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by KrazyHorse


                            I'm pretty sure this "strategy" is bollocks.

                            The machines don't pay out a bunch after they've been paying out nothing; each pull of the lever is guaranteed (by the laws in the jurisdictions I'm familiar with) to be completely independent of the last.

                            In other words it's like thinking that you're making a good bet on flipping tails because you've just flipped ten heads in a row. Probability doesn't work that way.
                            you are correct sir.

                            I have seen Royal Flushes within 5 minutes of each other on the same machine. Theoretically you could get a royal flush 2 hands in a row. Each hand has a certain percentage of getting a royal.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Ming
                              I don't know how it is over there... but some basic rules for playing slots in the US.

                              The larger the coin you have to put in, the higher the machine is set to pay out.

                              Always play the maximum number of coins per pull the machine will take.

                              In most casinos, they set the machines near the aisles to pay off higher than the machines buried deep in the rows... they want people to see people winning.

                              When you win a big pay off, walk away from the machine.

                              And sure, you can watch for machines that are "due"...
                              As I said in my previous posts. The machiens aren't supposed to be "hot" or "cold". There is a chance for a royal every single hand.

                              But. And this is a big but. I have seen "hot" machines. Even though they aren't supposed to exist. Like I said, I have been working on slot machines for the past 4 and 1/2 years. But I admit I don't program the chips. The slot manufactures do the actual programming.

                              But I have seen machines constantly hit jackpots over a period of a couple or a few hours. I have seen these same machines not hit any major jackpots as well. Sure you will hit full houses and such, but nothing major. I can't explain why this is. But I don't manufacture the chips.

                              But we can set up the "percentage" Each game has a certain percentage you can choose from. There are numbers like 95.2%, 96.4%, 97.2%, 98.1% etc for each game such as Bonus Poker, Double bonus Poker etc.

                              When we set the machines up, we can select one of the percentages for each game.

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                              • #45
                                All my above posts are referencing video poker. By far the most popular slot machine. Although technically they aren't a slot machine, everbody calls them slot machines. The reel type slot machines we call S-slots.

                                But most people in Las Vegas play video poker. A very popular game. There are many different variations. bonus poker, double bonus poker, double double bonus poker. triple bonus poker, deuces wild, joker poker, aces poker, bonus poker delux, triple play poker, five play poker, 10 play poker, 50 play poker, 100 play poker, or just flex play (these are new machines which offer a combination of the above).

                                Most new machines are multi-denomination. You can choose from various denominations. Typically 5c, 25c, 50c, $1, $2, $5, and even $25. If you bet 5 that is $125 a hand. A royal flush pays $100,000. And yes our company has payed out $100,000. Myself, the largest jackpot I have payed is $20,000. You'd be surprised how often we don't get tips for that . The guy who hit over $100,000 on Stud Poker didn't even tip.

                                10 play and 50 play machines may also have denominations like 1c, 2c, 10 c etc.

                                The casinos still have many reel type s-slots. But also Williams and Bally manufacture new "reel" type machines that use computer moniters. They don't have a mechanical reel. These are themed games such as Addams family, Honeymooners, lots of old tv shows. Even Playboy. We also have Wheel of Fortunes slots- these are manufactured by IGT. Probably the largest manufacturer in the world. Based out of Reno, NV. IMHO they are the best games to work on.

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