Star TreK Enterprise

[Kuciwalker]

We're talking about a ship that has withstood having blackholes shot at it. I doubt the ISD weapons would rate as a threat.

Shot through it. It doesn't depend on the strength of the ship there, because the black hole automatically passes through wherever it's going.

[DinoDoc]

I think the very fact those weapons exist gives the edge to the Andromeda universe.

[Kuciwalker]

How would Andromeda, or any other ship from its universe, invade the SW galaxy? They have no knowledge of the slipstream routes there. Hyperspace routes are simple by comparison.

[DeathByTheSword]

dudes...if this all is true...then the Dragonball universe can kick SW ST and Andomida stuffie thingy big time....

[Q Classic]

why are we even talking about this universe strength pissing contest?

[Kuciwalker]

This is a geek site...

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Pax
Can you elaborate Dr. Strangelove?

From the very first episode Crighton is petulant and prone to throwing temper tantrums. He acts more like a drunken jock than a world class scientist. I especially got fed up with the un-ending stream of sci-fi obsceneities (frelling this and frelling that). The show would have worked much better if the writers had concentrated a little bit less on impressing the 13 to 20 year old age group with how "cool" they were.

[Dr Strangelove]

Oh well, here we go again: ST ships are capable of fighting at warp speed and have weapons capable of travelling at super-luminal speeds. According to the script approved by George Lucas himself SW ships can barely exceed the speed of light, i.e., Hans Solo brags about his ship being one of the fastest in the empire because it travels at "point five past light speed". That's a direct quote. I don't care about what any of the books say. One and one-half times the speed of light is about the speed limit for SW ships as expressly mandated by the god of SW himself, George Lucas. SW weapons travel at a mere speed of light. It only stands to reason then that with competent leadership a ST fleet would be able to beat a SW fleet, since the ST fleet would be able to fly circles around the SW fleet shooting it to pieces while the SW ships would be unable to touch them because the ST ships fly faster than SW weapons. It would be like taking on F-15s with catapaults. That would work only in the Civilization universe.

It seems to me that in a recent episode Dylan said something about Andromeda's shields.
Ogf course, a Magog worldship would really give the empire something to worry about.

[Q Classic]

the funny thing of sw is that they speak of going around the whole galaxy, and if they didn't travel faster than light...

in st, they traven many multiples the speed of light, and don't even talk about traversing the whole galaxy.

obviously, sw's galaxy is tiny.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Oh well, here we go again: ST ships are capable of fighting at warp speed and have weapons capable of travelling at super-luminal speeds. According to the script approved by George Lucas himself SW ships can barely exceed the speed of light, i.e., Hans Solo brags about his ship being one of the fastest in the empire because it travels at "point five past light speed". That's a direct quote. I don't care about what any of the books say. One and one-half times the speed of light is about the speed limit for SW ships as expressly mandated by the god of SW himself, George Lucas. SW weapons travel at a mere speed of light. It only stands to reason then that with competent leadership a ST fleet would be able to beat a SW fleet, since the ST fleet would be able to fly circles around the SW fleet shooting it to pieces while the SW ships would be unable to touch them because the ST ships fly faster than SW weapons. It would be like taking on F-15s with catapaults. That would work only in the Civilization universe.

It seems to me that in a recent episode Dylan said something about Andromeda's shields.
Ogf course, a Magog worldship would really give the empire something to worry about.

First error: .5 past lightspeed does not mean 1.5 times lightspeed. It means the Falcon has a hyperdrive (hence the "past lightspeed") rating of .5. A higher hyperdrive rating indicates a slower ship.

Second error: "SW weapons travel at a mere speed of light". This is actually an error in my favor; SW weapons are not lasers in the sense of coherent light - this is obvious from the movies which are canon. SW weapons actually travel SLOWER than lightspeed, but this actually doesn't mean anything, because of the

Third error: ST ships can't attack ships in realspace from warp; there are multiple example of ST ship attacking station from realspace. If they could attack from warp, why would they attack from realspace and expose themselves to enemy fire?

[Q Classic]

Third error: ST ships can't attack ships in realspace from warp; there are multiple example of ST ship attacking station from realspace. If they could attack from warp, why would they attack from realspace and expose themselves to enemy fire?

cf. ST:VOY s4e14 "Message in a Bottle", the USS Prometheus separates into three separate modules and engages the following Starfleet vessels in warp.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Oh well, here we go again: ST ships are capable of fighting at warp speed and have weapons capable of travelling at super-luminal speeds. According to the script approved by George Lucas himself SW ships can barely exceed the speed of light, i.e., Hans Solo brags about his ship being one of the fastest in the empire because it travels at "point five past light speed". That's a direct quote. I don't care about what any of the books say. One and one-half times the speed of light is about the speed limit for SW ships as expressly mandated by the god of SW himself, George Lucas. SW weapons travel at a mere speed of light. It only stands to reason then that with competent leadership a ST fleet would be able to beat a SW fleet, since the ST fleet would be able to fly circles around the SW fleet shooting it to pieces while the SW ships would be unable to touch them because the ST ships fly faster than SW weapons. It would be like taking on F-15s with catapaults. That would work only in the Civilization universe.

It seems to me that in a recent episode Dylan said something about Andromeda's shields.
Ogf course, a Magog worldship would really give the empire something to worry about.

umm, there is a difference between maneuvering speed and warp (or whatever they call it) speed

and in the movies they go to other star systems in seconds, that is much much faster than light

Jon Miller

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Q Cubed

Third error: ST ships can't attack ships in realspace from warp; there are multiple example of ST ship attacking station from realspace. If they could attack from warp, why would they attack from realspace and expose themselves to enemy fire?

cf. ST:VOY s4e14 "Message in a Bottle", the USS Prometheus separates into three separate modules and engages the following Starfleet vessels in warp.

When both ships are in warp, they can attack each other. I've never seen anything that indicates you can attack from warp into realspace.

[Q Classic]

i don't see why you wouldn't be able to, though i will admit i don't recall an episode where it's happened either.

[Al B. Sure!]

solid entertainment
3. Star Trek: The Next Generation
4. Star Trek (original series)
5. Red Dwarf
6. Star Trek Enterprise

has it's moments
7. Dr. Who
8. Battlestar Galactica
9. Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

consistently painful
10. Andromeda
11. Star Trek: Voyager

worse than Walker: Texas Ranger
12. Stargate: SG-1

I guess I just prefer Hercules, Warrior Princess to MacGyver.

but you prefer Quantum Leap over Hercules and MacGyver?