An Intellectual Discussion About Killing Babies

[bipolarbear]

So should abortion be legal? Is it morally justifiable?
We have been "talking"(being pummelled with the Catholic view) about this in my "Moral Theology"(Catholic Brainwashing via "unbiased" propaganda) class. It got me thinking. I'm pro-choice personally (Anti-Life as the Catholic Mafia of my school would brand me).
I've been seeking an informed and mostly unbiased conversation, or at the very least information on the subject, but my friends aren'tthe most informed, and my school has already proven itslef ot be a failure, my mom watches Fox News and that's enough said there, nad the internet hasn't really been that great either, up til now.
So, in my moment of confusion, I turn to you the masses of Apolyton, to discuss, flame, post, and hopefully not destroy my chase for information with karmic spam.
With that said, let the posting begin! Orn ot in which case this, like most of my threads will sink like something thta has a much higher density than water.

[MrFun]

Well, since I do not see a correlation between abortion and killing babies, I'm not sure what you're saying.

[bipolarbear]

Neither do I, but some do, and I need something to get everyone to look at the thread.

[Verto]

Pro-Life all the way.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Where's Duddha? Oh, wait that would relate to eating babies..........

[General Ludd]

I am against all things baby. That includes baby killing.

[bipolarbear]

What about baby making? Baby birthing?
Oh crap, I can't even escape spammming my own intellectual pursuits.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by bipolarbear
What about baby making? Baby birthing?

Most definately.

The filthy things should not be given a chance to live in the first place.

[Ben Kenobi]

I've got plenty of information, but why would you take it from me?

Take it from yourself.

It got me thinking. I'm pro-choice personally

Why? Just 'cause you like rebelling?

[Victor Galis]

Well, this discussion really depends on whether or not you see the fetus as being human. I personally do not. Where you make that distinction between a bag of cells inside the mother and an independent human is partly a theological view.

Personally, I tend towards the view that if the fetus can not survive outside the womb it isn't a person yet, and as such can be aborted by the mother should she choose to.

[General Ludd]

I think that the semantics game is tiring and really just side-steps the issues completely. People can spend all their time arguing about what's human without adressing the actual issues of abortion at all.

[BeBMan]

Which are those actual issues?

[bipolarbear]

Why? Just 'cause you like rebelling?

Please do not degrade my opinion, no matter how worthless it may seem all the time, to that of pure rebeliion, it is not. I constructed that post poorly anways, that wasn't what I mena t at all.
I have struggled with the issue of abortion for a while before my class, and I came to the conclusion, that a fetus isn't really human life til it is born. While it may display may qualities of a human, it is not true human life.
I personally only support abortion to the second trimester. Partial birth abortions are bull***. If you waited that long to have a baby, then just have it and put it up for adoption.
I am pro abortion, more b/c I don't like back alley with a hanger abortions, and I think that a woman has a right to her reproductive rights. Basically that a woman has the right to abort a fetus should she so choose to.

[bipolarbear]

I think that the semantics game is tiring and really just side-steps the issues completely. People can spend all their time arguing about what's human without adressing the actual issues of abortion at all.

Yeha that is more of a matter of opinion, but I think thta that is where somebody's belief on the whole thing begins.

I've got plenty of information, but why would you take it from me?

Well, ben I've already heard a couple of weeks of the pro-life or your a fascist side, so I guess that ther isn't much form the anti choice(prolife) side that I haven't heard, but I still welcome it.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by BeBro
Which are those actual issues?

Ethics and the prevention of an unwanted childhood.